Sex Determination

It is as if people collectively lost their minds. From an article suggested by my browser at work:

Is the author of this piece insane (aside from a very bad writer)? Nobody checks chromosomes “at birth.” When the baby is born, one can see what sex it is by observing its sex organs. With eyes. That are located on our faces for a reason. However, science allows us not to determine anything “at birth” anymore. I knew I was having a girl at 12 weeks of pregnancy back in 2015. I’m sure since then science has advanced to where you can know even earlier.

Leaving that aside, though, how does this journalist imagine a baby’s birth? “Honey, did you see her chromosomes?” a happy mother exclaims. “I now know she’s a girl!”

Of course, any discussion of chromosomes these days leads to the same place:

Jennifer Graves, a geneticist from La Trobe University told NPR, “I don’t think that one can assume that just because [Y chromosomes] are there and they do something useful they’ll be there forever and ever. A small accident could tip it over the edge, or the evolution of a new sex-determining system that works better.”

The Y chromosome is disappearing. Here’s what it means for men (msn.com)

Color me downright shocked that “sex determination at birth” led to “a new sex-determining system” within a few paragraphs.

17 thoughts on “Sex Determination

          1. Dunno, man… they have a lot of symptoms of Y chromosome, but it’s not like you can change it. What good would it do? I wouldn’t want to make them feel bad. Maybe it’s better not to know for sure?

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  1. “as if people collectively lost their minds”

    No. They’re trying to make sane people as insane as they are, big difference.

    “I don’t think that one can assume”

    I have never encountered as many bad faith arguments as I have around trans issues. Every good faith effort gets twisted in an incredibly bad faith way… mostly by the AGP’s.

    And, as always, politically correct terminology has as its goal making you stupider. I’ve never encountered such basic ignorance of the world as presented by TRA’s and their “allies”.

    Once on twitter I saw one claim that after surgery “some” trans people start producing the gametes of their target sex…. in the 21st century….

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      1. It’s funny how the “Believe Science” people are the most ignorant and science-averse crowd you’ll ever see.

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    1. I remember reading about them in Ms. magazine back in… 1999? 2000? That was apparently the infant stage of the campaign to eliminate women as a legitimate category of people. A rash of publicity in those few years about intersex folks. I remember also hearing an NPR story on the radio about one of those poor bastards who was born with misformed genitalia, had them lopped off, and was raised as a girl.

      Yeah, they’re out there. No, people shouldn’t be arseholes about it.

      But why did everybody in the universe have to be blitzed with stories about this very unfortunate 0.01% of the population, all at the same time? Oh, right, because the propaganda directive said we must normalize every perversion. You can’t start by dumping tranny pedophiles on the public. You have to start by bombarding people with sympathetically-presented edge cases that soften everybody up about the idea of gender line-crossing. We’ve all seen what’s happened since.

      People with messed-up genitalia and rare chromosome disorders didn’t deserve to be cynically used by a propaganda juggernaut that never had their interests in mind at all.

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      1. You are right, there was a whole subgenre of novels with intersex characters in Spain. It was quite incomprehensible why there was suddenly all this interest.

        And then Spain came out with the most out there legislation on “trans rights.” A total coincidence, I’m sure.

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      2. @methylethyl

        I think it’s even less than 0.01%. Alice Dreger in Galileo’s Middle Finger had some more reliable numbers than the wildly inaccurate figures put out by activist organisations, but for the life of me I cannot seem to find them.

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        1. Probably. I pulled that statistic out of my arse. I know it’s exceedingly rare, and I’ve only ever met one, that I know of. That person was pioneering the use of “xe” pronouns back in the 90s and would probably be horrified by the way every angsty teen is now appropriating that and making it look like some sort of primadonna freakshow thing.

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