Walz’s Gender Policies

~ Clarissa

This is a bill Tim Walz signed in Minnesota, mandating the removal of children from their homes if parents refuse gender modifications, including the medical ones that are being abandoned by one developed country after another:

HF 146 grants a state court “temporary emergency jurisdiction” if a child in the state has been 1) abandoned, 2) threatened with or subjected to familial abuse, or 3) “unable to obtain gender-affirming health care.” The law defines “gender-affirming health care” as “medically necessary health care or mental health care that respects the gender identity of the patient, as experienced and defined by the patient,” including “interventions to suppress the development of endogenous secondary sex characteristics” and “developmentally appropriate exploration and integration of the patient’s gender identity.” Such an expansive definition covers everything from preferred clothing to medical interventions such as hormonal therapy and surgery.

Vance: Walz Supports Taking Children from Parents Who Oppose Gender Reassignment

This is shockingly aggressive and inhuman. And it’s going federal if Harris and Walz win the White House.

I don’t understand how people who say they are gender critical can vote for this.

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  1. I can’t wait for Republicans and Democrats to finally get over this weird obsession with children’s private parts.

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  2. By the way, this article here says this claim is BS:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tim-walz-did-not-sign-law-allowing-state-to-take-away-transgender-children/ar-AA1oOh75

    I had to look this up because it seemed to outrageous to be true, and it was.

    “”Tim Walz signed a bill that lets the State take away ur kids if you d/n/ agree to sterilize them & chop off their body parts in the name of ‘gender affirming care,”‘ says an August 6, 2024 post on Instagram with over 30,000 likes shared by Megyn Kelly, a conservative talk show host.

    “So if your 14-yr-old is sad but thinks it’s gender confusion & u object to castrate him, the St takes custody.”

    Also, do you Republicans in this blog not get offended being talked to like borderline retarded people who can’t string a proper sentence together? Trump does the same thing, writes things out like he’s addressing children or the mentally disabled.

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      1. The terrifying thing is the ideological equivalence that the law establishes by equating abandoning or abusing children with refusing them to be subjected to dubious medical practices which may lead to irreversible physical and psychological damage.

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        1. True. And we are being gaslit by the media into thinking that it never happened. If it’s a good policy and you support it, as they claim to do, then why such a rush to disavow it? If you truly think these are lifesaving interventions, you should be proud of championing them. So why the campaign of lies?

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        1. “Here is a second one:”

          That supposed debunking is sufficiently horrifying on its own terms….

          First, there is no such thing as ‘gender diverse’ children….

          And in practical terms it allows one parent to drag their poor child to Minnesota to be mutiliated and renders the other parent helpless to stop it.

          Since when are children qualified to make their own decisions on irreversible elective surgical procedures? Anyone that supports any aspect of that is not fit for public office.

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          1. Yeah, seems like a dumb law, I’m not going to dispute that. My position is all these laws and insane attention to this issue is beyond counter productive and ridiculous.
            These trans issues are only a real issue for like 0.01% of the population, but it’s a great point of friction and division.

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            1. This issue affects significantly more than 0.01% young people nowadays. You are off by at least two orders of magnitude, perhaps even close to three.

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              2. From the link:

                “The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis”

                Very young children have been mutilated for life. And that’s before the actual explosion in these procedures since 2021.

                This is an atrocity that we should all be ashamed of as a society. Imagine a boy whose penis was cut off at 15. Just think about what kind of life awaits him. Or a girl without her breasts at 13.

                There are several cases when it was done on girls before the age of 13. A monstrosity.

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              3. I am in contact with a large number of young people in their 20ies. The number of them identifying as trans has skyrocketed over the past few years. I don’t ask them personal questions on whether they are on medication, but it is apparent that some of them are and some are not. Just this year, I have interacted on a regular basis with three. The numbers are definitely more than 4 in 10,000. This is not some fringe issue that nobody cares about.

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              4. I’m seeing it among students and colleagues’ kids. The youngest is 9. One colleague tried to pull it on a 4-year-old but thankfully he managed to resist.

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        2. Spot the double-negative on Snopes…
          It is false that he didn’t sign into law.

          Anyone would think they had an axe to grind, as shown by the last paragraph where they say:

          “It may also allow for treatment that slows puberty, which is reversible.”

          This claim has been debunked by the Cass review in the UK, which showed that the hormone treatment being used had not been proved to be safe for children.

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    3. “you Republicans” ?

      Why do you use such polarizing language? People have different ideas, vote for different parties, change their mind about who to vote for, in five years of frequenting this blog I’ve hardly ever seen any talk of political affiliation: why start now?

      Why is it so difficult for people to accept that others have different opinions and that you do not have to share them if you disagree with them?

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      1. Shit man, sorry, I didn’t know calling people Republicans was so polarizing. I think we should make it a protected class.

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  3. A few weeks back I was an undecided voter (I was ready not to vote as I do not like either option). The more I see from the Harris/Walz the more I am being pushed to actually show up and vote against them. I am getting a very dystopian vibe from them.

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    1. Literally everything that the Harris campaign said or did after its recent start has scared the bedickens out of me. I’ve been trying to talk myself into voting Dem but it’s not working because there’s something repellent every day.

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      1. People always say this at every election. “The world will end if such and such wins!” “I’ll move to X_country if such and such wins.” Yet here we are, things not perfect, but still functioning and way better than in other places.

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        1. First, no one is talking about the world ending. Second, I can assure you that the world goes on and somehow functions in dystopian societies as well. After all, growing up in a socialist country I do have some first-hand experience with that. People still go to work, get married, celebrate birthdays, and have a good time. They also stand in long lines for food, are not able to buy toilet paper, are not allowed to study what they want and may end up in prison randomly. But the world goes on, sun still shines and children are being born.

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  4. “A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis”

    And in other news the Manson Family only killed a few people (a tiny fraction of those murdered in California….) why all the fuss?

    Don’t take my word for it, look into the whole trans-medical industrial complex… for most people the more they know the more they turn against it….

    Exulansic is a good place to start…. just heartbreaking stuff is being done to young, vulnerable people… and I can’t support anyone who supports it, even obliquely.

    https://x.com/TTExulansic/status/1824301191750357217

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    1. I can’t remember the last time I saw a transgender person. I have never in my whole life so much as known anybody going through transition. I don’t think I have ever so much as seen a “transgender” child. My personal experience reflects what I have been able to find regarding the percentage of the population who is transgender, they’re basically a rounding error in the population.

      What makes more sense to me: It’s a cudgel to foment division and keep us fighting among each other so that we don’t take a look at the big picture and focus on the issues that affect 99% percent of the population.

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        1. This is not about transgender people. If only it were. This is about the first step in the direction of removing children from families if parents refuse medical interventions. Tomorrow it will be ADHD meds, anti-depressants, COVID vaccines, and one day, I’m sure, the AI chips Elon Musk so loves.

          This is the very first step, and they are counting on us not paying attention because there are so few transgenders that who cares.

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        2. I know several people. I thought the commenters on this blog might find this interesting as Clarissa can vouch I’m a real person.

          One is the older child of my husband’s close friends. They used to be my husband’s and his ex wife’s neighbors when they were married. They’re still the ex wife’s neighbors.

          The couple are originally from Sweden and they have two children. Their younger child, a daughter, was born a few months before my youngest stepchild (a boy) was born, so they grew up side by side and were very close when they went to the same elementary and middle schools.

          The older child is a transgender man. I first met this person as a girl (a teenager in high school). The transition happened after the person turned 18. I don’t know if surgery was involved, testosterone certainly was based on his appearance. Now he’s graduated college. He has a girlfriend. He seems happy, as does the rest of his family.

          The family is very low key. They don’t have a presence on social media, don’t wear rainbow or transgender flag colors, and don’t have any signs in their yard. I’ve met them and their children on multiple social occasions. They’re normal people. My husband and his first wife have them listed as their first choice of guardians for their youngest child in their will. I’ll defer to their judgement.

          The second person I know I’m now related to by marriage. What’s the term for the relative who is your (step) son-in-law’s sibling?

          My younger stepdaughter (the middle child) got married last year. She gave birth to a daughter this July, so now I’m a (step)grandmother at 40. My stepdaughter just turned 22 a week ago.

          Anyway, she moved to San Francisco 2 years ago and that’s where her husband is from. He’s Asian American. His parents are from Taiwan. They have three kids. Again, I’ve met them, they’re lovely people, very low key, etc.

          They are Catholic. Their eldest son (my step-son-in-law) is the only child who still is. He’s quite serious about it – no sex before marriage, which he wrote about on his blog. He goes to church and my stepdaughter has been going with him.

          His younger siblings are a gay man and a transgender woman. I don’t know when exactly she transitioned, but I’m pretty sure it was after puberty. Legal adulthood seems like a safe bet. The family are not the type of people who seek attention or are into ultra-left political causes.

          Everyone I listed here are upper middle class, so financially secure. There is no obvious family dysfunction or any signs of it I have perceived so far. Everyone is welcome to speculate on hidden abuse, of course.

          I wanted to add my 2 cents to anecdata. I’m aware that liberal social trends that are amusing for the rich may be disastrous for the others.

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      2. I’ve known exactly one. An adult woman when I first met her, and transitioned to male-presenting via hormones while I was still in touch. Grew a full beard, lost all bodyfat, and after a year or two would have passed as simply a short man unless you heard this person talk. Can’t change the size of your vocal cords, really.

        Knowing this person makes me 10x more against ever doing any of this stuff to children: what they need is high quality, affordable mental health care, not hormones and surgery. And also because of my acquaintance with this person, I am… not totally against social services getting involved with kids who want to transition. Not to help them transition, but to make sure nobody’s been molesting them, and that their parents aren’t involved in some kind of sick divorce revenge or proxy munchausens or something. I think in that population– kids who want to be opposite gender– you’d find a very high rate of all those things, if you looked.

        I was never close enough to this person to get the whole story, I have always been sympathetic to their transition– it did seem to make them measurably happier and more confident– but the pre-transition woman I had known gave off really intense I-was-molested-as-a-child vibes. Painfully, cripplingly self-conscious, never let out anything that might be construed as personal info, and just… defeated posture, secretive habits, no family, some undefinable know-it-when-you-meet-it stuff. And, you know, in the absence of a good therapist and excellent mental health care… I can’t say I blame this person for transitioning. Given the priors I am guessing at there… it’s probably healthier than the other common option of gaining 200 pounds so that men won’t look at you anymore.

        But wouldn’t it have been better if this kid had gotten the help she obviously needed when she was still a child?

        I see the transition here as a desperation measure, where real help was not available. Why are we pushing kids into the second- or third- or fourth- best option, instead of fighting for really good options?

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        1. Knowing this person makes me 10x more against ever doing any of this stuff to children: what they need is high quality, affordable mental health care

          Thank you.

          I don’t think that there are no people who are trans or intersex and who, as adults, need help to present appropriately.

          However, I am very wary about the modern eugenics movement which seems determined to neuter ASD girls.

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          1. Yeah, I was one such, and that bothers me hugely. Was 23 before the idea of being sexually attractive to men was an idea I could contemplate without extreme anxiety (and this was super awkward because most of my friends were guys– girls were extremely difficult to get along with). At college, I skirted this problem by shaving my head and dressing male for a couple of years. No harm, it took the pressure off until I had a chance to grow up a little, and things are fine now. I do not like to think about what might’ve happened to me if “trans” had been a fad when I was that age.

            I’m not convinced I would have gone for it. Even then, I was wary of things that promised “belonging”. But take that same desperately awkward kid, knock off twenty IQ points, and… anything could’ve happened.

            Some days it really does seem like some freakish conspiracy of “mean girls” to permanently take the aspies out of the gene pool.

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          2. My 8yo nephew is in camp right now and in his group there’s a boy who presents as a girl. Thankfully, even though it’s Canada he wasn’t placed in the girls’ group because it’s a swimming camp and they change together. But my nephew was quite stunned by seeing male body parts on a kid he thought was a girl.

            Eight! You can convince an 8yo of absolutely anything, so the parents are responsible.

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  5. We can solve many of our problems by listening to Private Snafu and to the “triple-filter test” (often attributed to Socrates, but this seems doubtful). In this WWII training cartoon, Snafu learns what happens when you spread the baloney:

    Good advice, even 81 years later. As for the triple-filter test, let’s consider: is what we’re saying true? Is it good? And is it useful?

    Now, it’s not for me to determine or to accuse one “side” or another of doing this sort of thing more often (that would be, well, polarizing). But I have had to duck a fair amount of flying baloney when I’ve checked out this blog lately. Maybe a pause is in order to… think? reflect? study?… before sending an excess of processed meat product airborne.

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    1. You’re still here of your own free will. So if you object to flying baloney you could just… not put yourself in the flying baloney zone.

      I don’t complain about the rain, when I could step under the porch roof.

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  6. Well, sure, I always have that option, as does everybody here. And I might start just lurking again, rather than offering my stunningly brilliant insights. Depends. And it’s not so much a complaint, more of a simple shrug with perhaps an exclamation of “…Really?!”

    Also, fun fact: the “Snafu” cartoons were the first collaborations between Chuck Jones and Dr. Seuss, who would later team up for the TV adaptation of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas.”

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