Commercial vs Social

That’s an interesting observation because I’ve never seen it this way. I never answer the phone if I don’t have a very specific and strong need to talk to the person calling at that moment. And I pretty much never have any need to talk to strangers. It’s the same thing with emails. I don’t even open, let alone answer, about 60% of emails I get at work because there are so many of them. The only people who always get their emails answered the second I see them are students. The idea that I’d open emails from people trying to sell me something is quite alien to me.

What I find interesting is that the quoted poster perceives a relationship between a salesperson and his unwilling mark as social and not commercial. And he indicates that younger people see it as strictly commercial. I’m neither a Millennial or a Zoomer but I believe these young people have gotten it right. Commercial and private are different things. We should not confuse them because the moment you let commercial into the private, the private is gone.

I was once friendly with a woman who was a sales rep for a supplement company. We went to dinner and she told me about how disappointed she was in a mutual acquaintance.

“I’ve been so nice to Esther!” she exclaimed. “I thought we were really becoming friends. I had her over to our place, we went out to dinner a lot. And she still didn’t buy anything from me! Not a single purchase in all this time!”

“I’m sorry, are you expecting me to buy something?” I asked bluntly because this sounded like too much of a hint.

“Oh no!” the woman said. “I really like you. I’d want to be friends regardless. Esther, though! Why did she think I was hanging out with her this whole time? Any normal person would have figured it out and bought something.”

This person still tries to suggest hanging out at regular occasions but I can never figure out to what extent it’s a sales strategy, so I don’t participate.

16 thoughts on “Commercial vs Social

  1. “Let you down softly” is a strategy developed for a world that doesn’t exist anymore: one where you live in a small town/community, you see the same people socially and commercially, the girl ringing up your groceries is the niece of your coworker, and the guy selling you a car is your cousin’s uncle. And… the only people ringing your phone are people you know, or people who dialed the number wrong.

    If you apply that strategy to a world where everybody has a phone in her hand all the time, scammers call you five times a day from India, and most commercial transactions are done online… it doesn’t work. Low-volume, high-trust strategies break down hard in a high-volume, low-trust environment. And “being nice about it” just makes you look exploitable.

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  2. if I engaged someone to help me find a mortgage, or a car or anything else, I would let them know I’ve gone with another broker/sale/etc

    if unsolicited contact, no need to reply.

    amanda

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  3. I don’t read a vast majority of emails sent to me. Open email client in the morning, and just delete delete delete unread. As you say, I look at emails from students and colleagues, most of the rest is deleted unread. What’s this illusion that people owe you time/money/engagement just because you ask?

    I can’t remember the last time I talked to anyone on the phone. It was probably school nurse for one of my kids or some such. People I know will text. People calling who I don’t know are invariably scammers and instantly blocked.

    A prospective graduate student found me on WhatsApp (which I have to communicate with literally three people from my country of origin). He messaged me, and it made me absolutely livid. If I’m not responding to your email, you should take a hint, not stalk me on other apps FFS.

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    1. “I look at emails from students”

      How can you tell? I often get emails from students (not from university address but some other account with a name that’s completely unrecognizable).

      I delete emails that are clearly spam or scam bait but I still have to open some to see if it is something that needs to be reacted to.

      I mostly don’t answer the phone if it’s a number I don’t recognize.

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      1. Ours aren’t allowed to use other email addresses in the university context. Nothing from gmails and hotmails ever gets opened and they learn it early enough.

        If also somebody taught them how to attach a file to an email and work in track changes mode, I’d be very happy.

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        1. “aren’t allowed to use other email addresses in the university context”

          I’m trying to process the idea of people that don’t do things that “aren’t allowed”… and I’m failing…. miserably.

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      2. I mean, if the subject isn’t indicative of a student issue (“prospective student interested in joining your group”) and is also is not from the university address, it won’t get read.

        Even students from the university will give some hint they’re students in the subject (like “CLASS 123 midterm question”) or some such.

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  4. “the quoted poster perceives a relationship between a salesperson and his unwilling mark as social”

    Well in the traditional American model it was a social relationship of a kind…. so many Europeans think that shallow or even superficial relationships aren’t real but a lot of what made the US so pleasant to live in for so long was that people extended basic courtesy to strangers and/or those with whom they only had fleeting superficial relationships with. Europe tends to go to the other extreme and if you haven’t known someone since you were in second grade together they might as well be a big rock….

    If you were serious enough about a big purchase to see the person more than once you let them know personally if you weren’t going through on it. The salesperson might not like the info but they appreciate knowing not to waste more time pursuing it.

    Of course the ‘be nice to people you only have fleeting contacts with’ model is dead largely for the reasons methylethyl pointed out… the traditional product and service economy has been replaced by the slash and burn scam economy where everyone is a grifter or mark or emotionless android…

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  5. I guess I need context. If I agreed to something then changed my mind, I will directly say I changed my mind; I’ve noticed that many zoomers are very averse to being direct. But broadly, the idea that I’m obligated to read and listen to unwanted emails and phone calls from someone trying to sell me something is baffling. We have no relationship.

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  6. Hi Clarissa, by the way my sisters’ named Clair. Type II and Type III diabetes plagues generations of my family. Pardon me but have made a tremendous breakthrough in medical research.

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    1. If it has plagued generations of your family, it might not be type 2. You might want to read up on the monogenic forms of diabetes, look at your family, and ask yourself: “Is this pattern of diabetes consistent with autosomal dominant inheritance patterns?”

      The monogenic forms probably account for somewhere less than 15% of diabetes all together, but it’s something to consider any time you have more than a couple of diabetic people in your family.

      If it’s monogenic, then it’s nothing to do with gut microbiome (though everyone is certainly better off with a healthy digestion!), and everything to do with gene-mediated protein malformations somewhere along the metabolic chain: insulin receptors, signaling, leptin, pancreatic cells…

      Most people with monogenic diabetes are misdiagnosed with T1 or T2.

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  7. I long for the days when telephones where fixed appliances which did not reveal the identity of the caller. One could either decide to answer the call to find out who it was and what it was about, or ignore it, and be done ( or alternatively be left with the doubt that one might have missed an important call).

    Personally, I cannot understand why it is so difficult for people to answer their phones, and this phenomenon also makes me wonder why the incidence of autism and other personality disorders has risen in recent decades.

    I leave my phone at home more and more frequently, for example when I go to work or when I am doing my shopping: it is switched on so when I come back I can check who called while I was out and call them back. It’s liberating.

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      1. <quote>…plus it feels wonderfully subversive to go places without the beastly little tracking devices.</quote>

        This is tangential, but it reminds me of a disturbing relationship trend I see on social media, where people expect unfettered access to the partner’s phone, their location, etc. Related, you also have these “Is this cheating?” videos and the most innocuous interactions (“Is it cheating if a woman laughs out loud to another man’s joke?”) are labeled cheating. It’s all deeply disturbing. I don’t want to be tracked and I don’t want anyone to look at my phone, not because I’m doing anything untoward, but because I have the right to privacy, my own thoughts, my own web browsing, my own business relationships, acquaintances, and friendships that aren’t scrutinized by my spouse. I don’t want anyone tracking whether or not I went to get coffee before work, or stopped by get gas or whatever. I will tell my spouse what I did and where I went; I don’t want to be tracked. Sometimes I just want to sit in a parking lot for 45 min, reading a book on my phone or listening to the radio, and I don’t want to answer to anyone about it.

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        1. I always turn the thing off for church. Often, I forget to turn it back on again after. Two days later, I’ll get an email from my sibling: “Hey, you forgot to turn your phone on again, call me.”

          This is so nice– the days of no phone interaction between, because I forgot it in the car or didn’t turn it on, or the battery ran out and I didn’t notice– that now I look for good times to just, not have it. Instead of turning it off at church, I just leave it at home. Husband has a phone. We’re covered in any emergency, why take it at all? Visiting friends? Phone stays in the car. I’ve begun to think of the device, any time it is turned on, as a potential microphone, and it adjusts my thinking on where it should and should not go. Would I willingly wear a wire to a friend’s house? To church? To talk to my bank? No. To Walmart? No problem.

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        2. When I had my foot injury in July and was confined to my room, the hardest part was that everybody always knew exactly where I was. I didn’t feel like myself. There wasn’t 15 minutes in the day when I’d be untrackable. And that was a heavy burden. Felt so weird.

          I totally, completely get what you are saying.

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