I’m asking people please to come up with an alternative explanation for why little girls are used in these ads because this is too disturbing to contemplate.
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I’m asking people please to come up with an alternative explanation for why little girls are used in these ads because this is too disturbing to contemplate.
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This is ironic in a twisted way since back jn the 80s, Welsh nationalists were burning houses in Wales bought by English people as holiday homes. Welsh and Scottish nationalists are Marxists who hate and fear English people who are their fellow Brits but are okay with Third World scum living in Wales, the English who bought houses in Wales were mostly retirees.
They seem to think they’re back in the Middle Ages when the hated Saxons were oppressing them, when they don’t realize Muslim refugees are far worse. I don’t care if this sounds harsh, but Muslims don’t belong in Christian societies ever, my people kicked them out of Spain and they should stay out.
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Inexplicable and horrifying.
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When were these ads?
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I think it’s 2018. Or 2019.
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Given the suppression in the media… perhaps that’s not *quite* so galling as if it were current?
Still pretty cringe.
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“not quite so galling as if it were current”
Nothing in the media now wasn’t fully known by policy makers in the UK in 2016….
They knew for sure and they did it anyway….
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Ugh.
Reckon they’ll hang a few government functionaries, or haven’t they got any balls left over there?
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All I’m getting by way of reaction from the UK is pouting that Americans dared to discuss their internal affairs. When they marched for the BLM, that was fine. Bit when we have an opinion, suddenly that’s not allowed.
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I’ve heard rumors that classism is waaaay worse there than it is stateside.
Am beginning to think that the rumors underestimated it to a jawdropping degree.
I mean, the only way any of this makes sense is, to the ordinary middle-class UK public, these girls are worthless slags who deserve whatever happened to them because they’re trash.
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The class thing is very real, I have British pen pals and regularly read Spiked Online and Brendan O’Brien’s columns. The upper and middle classes really think the poor and working classes are a completely different breed of human beings from them, they loathe the poor and think they’re subhuman. The consensus from the upper and middle classes is that the poor are racist white trash who deserve to be poor and be victimized, since they’re probably racist retards anyway *sarc*. Think of how some liberals see Trump supporters but more vicious
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It really is looking that way.
The implication there, is that the “normal” British public are absolute subhuman monsters.
Have they always been that way, or is that a recent development?
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I think it’s been this way for a long time, the British class system is far more rigid than anything in the US. What makes it worse was that traditionally, the left wing and Labour were mostly from the working classes but they’ve been colonized by the middle classes who loathe working class people.
Unlike the US, if a working class in the UK becomes wealthy and successful, they’re still seen as working class and treated like trash since they’ve gone above their station, that they will never be anything but trash. Compare that to the US where people worship wealth and celebrity and love it when someone from a humble background makes it, we love it when someone succeeds and makes loads of money. In the US, coming from a poor or working class background and ending up rich and/or famous is something to celebrate and they’re seen as rich and awesome. Our class system is a lot more fluid, we generally don’t think poor people deserve to be poor except for a few crazy liberals and old fashioned people
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I agree about the British class system buy I think that the Brits would sacrifice their middle and upper middle class daughters just as eagerly. The working class women are the most fertile which is why they are being sacrificed. It’s a cultural suicide. Thwart the capacity of the most fertile group to procreate, and your society won’t renew itself.
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You may be right, upper middle and regular middle class people really seem to be self-loathing about being British. They feel more affinity for middle and upper class immigrants than for their own working class, the working classes might as well be space aliens.
An interesting book on this subject is Reborn in America by Roger Bennett, a British born author and host of the Men in Blazers podcast. He grew up in an upper middle class family in Liverpool during the 80s and went to a posh boarding school that still caned make students, but he felt vaguely uncomfortable with his family’s snobbery and social pretensions. Bennett went on a student exchange and stayed with an American family in Chicago and he was surprised that the host family were ethnic Americans who’d worked their way up the class ladder over several generations.
The great-grandfather of the host family was a penniless Irish immigrant who learned to be mechanic, his son started his own mechanic shop, his son started another and the current son owned a chain of mechanic shops, which made them affluent enough to have a beautiful house in the Chicago suburbs, private schools for the kids and a lake house in Wisconsin. In spite of the family’s wealth, Bennett was shocked that the dad watched football, drank beer and was a relaxed, regular guy. His own father was a snob who openly disdained poor people and was a hardcore Thatcher supporter, in Liverpool. Something that surprised Bennett was that in the US, people of all social backgrounds enjoyed fast food, pop music, football, dumb TV shows and beer, while his dad only watched serious BBC programming, loathed sports and hated pop music. It’s an interesting book to read how an upper middle class British person is awed by the egalitarianism and fluidity of American culture.
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“the British class system is far more rigid”
A Brit I once knew claimed it wasn’t class per se since there is some mobility… he likened it more to tribalism.
In tribal societies the whole world is divided into two groups:
Us = good people, people you should be honest with and treat with integrity
Them = bad people, enemies to be exploited as much as you can, they deserve nothing and everything you can do to them (cause they’d do the same to you).
Many Brits sincerely don’t know what the fuss about girls from an enemy tribe being exploited is all about.
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That makes a lot of sense, the Brits do seem like a very tribal people. When I watched Premier League soccer, I noticed how fanatically tribal a lot of fans were towards their teams and actually loathed other team’s supporters and sometimes beat them up.
That makes a lot of sense now, the middle and upper classes are one tribe and the working class is another, both hate each other’s guts. As far as the middle and upper classes are concerned, the working class is a rival tribe and what happens to them is none of their business. They really don’t see working class people as fellow British citizens, just a primitive tribe of drunken yahoos
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“the middle and upper classes are one tribe”
No. theyr’e very separate tribes. And from what I can tell… the middle class is easily the most despised by everyone else. It’s heavily fictionalized but the episode of the Crown where Thatcher (middle class) visits Balmoral (upper class) was full of the tensions between the two groups. Very funny and highly recommended.
Some Agatha Christie books also touch on this (more the Marple than the Poirot books).
“soccer, I noticed how fanatically tribal a lot of fans were”
A student of mine once (formerly big soccer fan) described the followers of different clubs in Poland. Each big club had enemies, friends and neutrals. Wearing the local team’s shawl in an enemy town would be close to suicidal while in a friendly town the reaction would be very positive. Matches between the teams of friendly fan groups were still competitive but without the raw hatred of matches with enemy groups.
And, the teams are a second thought, fans are fans more for each other than for the teams. This is why public service messages with soccer players are very ineffective – the players are entertainers for the fans amusement and not any kind of role models.
Anyway, each tribe, at any one time, has enemy, allied and neutral tribes. The white working class in Britain doesn’t have any real allies while Pakistani immigrants are allied with the ruling class (under their protection as it were).
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It could always be worse. Look at Germany.
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