Clobbering the Nation-state

To my earlier point, I just saw on Twitter that in America it’s the Right that demands to drag “children from Gaza” into this country for “lifesaving surgeries.” In those same words. It’s extraordinary.

We have the left and the right promoting the exact same measures that lead to the exact same result of undermining the nation-state.

It’s got to be all sorts of funny that the left and the right both clobber the nation-state with these utterly imaginary “children from Gaza who need surgeries.” It’s like they are reading from the same script. Couldn’t even be assed to come up with something original. Fascinating.

Tomorrow I will be posting suggestions on how successfully to neoliberalize ourselves because it’s now clearly inevitable.

14 thoughts on “Clobbering the Nation-state

  1. A dozen children getting visas for surgery here is maybe #100000 in the list of things that threaten the nation state.

    Much much higher on the list is the fifth column in america in the form of the jewish lobby/activism that has at every point since arriving here advocated for the interests of thE ONly DeMOcrACy iN tHe mIDDle eAsT and nobody else. Actively supporting open borders, being at the forefront of all the “isms” we see today, denying any sort of nationalism to this country’s people, effectively making it a crime. You’ve yourself have attributed the subversive nature of ashkenazi jews to their high IQs. Ok fine. I don’t care. I only see the outcome. For example, what could be more threatening to the nation state than taking its most cherish value — found nowhere else on the planet (free speech) — and subverting it because it is inconvenient to you (literally conditioning disaster aid on your support for israel)?

    The muslim problem in europe is very real (and I absolutely despise muslims and islam) but this problem is not ours. We have a different problem.

    I refuse to believe that people like Laura Loomer (the one who raised a stink about this that led to the cancellation of the visas), Ben Shapiro, Bari Weiss and Bill Ackerman have the best interests of our nation state in mind.

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    1. Who else complained about the visas? Rep. Randy Fine, who really really cares about preserving our nation state.

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      1. He might be wrong about everything else but if he’s opposed to this visa scam, he’s 100% right.

        Haven’t we had enough of these suffering Ilhan Omars? Why do we need more? To stick it to Israel? Israel would be only happy if we take this problem off their hands.

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        1. But the original point stands. Of all the things that threaten the nation state, this pales in comparison to much larger forces, an example of which I outlined above.

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          1. It’s the idea that people deserve to be here because they are miserable. When it should be the exact opposite.

            This country shouldn’t be a prize in The Biggest Loser competition.

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    2. I agree that they all suck but when did it ever stop at s dozen children? Once we agree that it’s a great idea to drag people half across the world here for medical treatment, when there are countries much closer, this will never end. That’s how it always works. “Just these three people who REALLY NEED it.” Five million migrants later, we sit there, unable to understand what happened.

      No, enough. Canadian children, OK, I get it. They are neighbors, it’s a similar culture, they will go home for sure. Everybody else gets to go to neighboring countries.

      If there were Ukrainian children urgently needing to come for treatment to the US, I’d say these are scammers, too.

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      1.  agree that they all suck but when did it ever stop at s dozen children? Once we agree that it’s a great idea to drag people half across the world here for medical treatment, when there are countries much closer, this will never end.

        Fair point. I agree!

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  2. The american right is becoming disenchanted with Israel, which really undermines the efforts of israel-firsters to conflate any criticism of israel with wokeism. Easy to dismiss blue-haired trannies and wheelchair-bound BIPOCs. Not so easy when it’s young red-blooded americans (who hate DEI) on the other side.

    Tagged here, so I’ll try to answer why “America’s younger conservatives are increasingly disaffected with the Jewish state?”

    Partly demographic and ideological turnover, but the obvious answer is the main one: Israel is two years into a war that has decimated its neighboring population to an unrecognizable degree and the moral and practical justifications for which get less and less convincing every day, with no clear military advantage left to be gained, and which the American right, long exhausted by middle eastern conflicts, wants no part of at all even as it is well understood that the war is being subsidized by America, both in terms of materiel and diplomatic might.

    Further, because the moral and military justifications are becoming harder and harder to come by, the war’s domestic supporters have a tendency to exhibit vindictive and spiteful and recriminatory behavior toward anyone who expresses pointed critiques about the war and Israel’s foreign policy objectives more generally, and also that this treatment of dissent has the very bad habit of encroaching on domestic policy, which only alienates these skeptics even more and hardens their objections, and gives the impression—not entirely unfounded—that the “special relationship” with Israel rather than a blessing, is perhaps more like a millstone around America’s neck.

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  3. Like I said, fifth column. The person who introduced this bill in congress is a bigger parasite and more dangerous than all the retarded somalis in minnesota put together.

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  4. Capt. Kuehne, USMC (Ret.) doesn’t get it: amendment H.R. 8445 refers not so much to prospective US citizens who have served in the IDF (Israel’s army), but rather to US-born American citizens who have served, are currently serving or may serve in the IDF in the future and who then return to the United States.

    I’m surprised – though maybe I shouldn’t be – that many Americans are unaware of the fact that several American Jews are serving or have served in the IDF. It has been going on for decades, and numbers have increased in recent years.

    The proposed amendment would extend protections currently enjoyed by service members of the US armed forces to US citizens who may never have served in such forces but who are serving or have served in the IDF. The mind boggles.

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    1. Thanks for the catch, Avi. It’s equally bad, of course.

      I’m surprised – though maybe I shouldn’t be – that many Americans are unaware of the fact that several American Jews are serving or have served in the IDF. 

      You’d be even more surprised to know that more american jews serve in the IDF than they do in the american armed forces.

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