This was lightning fast:
I hate the philosophy behind the measure, of course, but I can’t fail to admire the deadly (in a very literal sense) effectiveness. As we keep fumbling, they are getting ready to unleash every pedo rapist and violent felon on us.
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Oh, a whole slate: it also eliminated hand-counting of ballots, ever. And goes hard on funding the exact same enterprises just revealed to be mostly fraud in MN. Wheee.
https://x.com/ChristianHeiens/status/2013315696118095948
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Note that Indiana republicans refused to redistrict the state to give themselves more seats. GOP is nothing but controlled opposition. The only time they spring into action is to further jewish interests. There is literally no other constituency they are beholden to.
At least the dems have a big tent of clients they cater to: blacks, latinos, illegals, women, LGBT. For the GOP it’s just one.
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I hope Dems come back in power in 2028 and put this entire administration in jail. If republicans are incapable of punishing malicious incompetence within their own party, let us have people who will.
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But Clarissa, we really need Greenland and in the process tank our relationship with our biggest trade partners. Also really need to bomb Iran and start another war in the Middle East. Wasn’t that what Trump got elected for?
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Democrats are trying to legalize rape and pedophilia. This is the alternative we were offered. Nobody is offering anything else.
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An administration that doesn’t care about its ratings in the polls getting destroyed just so that they can keep hiding Epstein details has zero moral high ground on this issue. They’re all pedos and rapists.
Also, you sidestepped ed’s point. The voters weren’t “offered” the choice to support or oppose greenland and other misadventures in the ME in the election.
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GOP can go fuck itself.
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Well, yeah, but the Dems manage to get their base to vote for all of their dumb retarded candidates so what’s up with that.
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Their dumb retarded candidates are loyal to their base. That’s the difference. Would the dem equivalent of a Vivek Ramaswamy-type who clearly hates his base get an endorsement from Biden? No. That’s the difference.
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It’s not true. Democrat voters don’t want to legalize rape or pedophilia. They don’t want infinity migrants. Only a very small number of them are like that. The rest are normal people who unfortunately believe what they hear on TV.
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Democratic voters will vote according to their material interests and will hold their noses on other policies. This is why black voters, the most socially conservative of all population groups in the US (and who hate gays and trannies with a passion lol), don’t mind LGBT issues being promoted by their party and still vote dems at the 95% level.
What material interests does the GOP provide for its base?
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Black people could have noticed that an enormous illegal immigration is not in their interest. That their population isn’t growing because they are disproportionately aborting. That it’s their boys that are getting killed at a disproportionate rate. That East St Louis is getting worse. That their kids are getting tricked into college degrees to improve colleges’ numbers and then can’t find jobs. But they are disregarding all these material interests.
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Only if the black community was capable of this level of intelligence, to foresee the long-term consequences of the policies they support. This is a community that lives entirely in the present. And the material interests in the present are “free money and gimmedat.”
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This is who they’re loyal to and they can go to hell.
“We are using existing laws in innovative ways”
“how the DOJ is working for them by suing anti-Israel protesters under the FACE Act for “the first time,” and extracting giant “anti-Semitism” settlements out of universities.”
See how creative they can be when it comes to helping out jews? How many giant anti-white settlements have they extracted out of universities?
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“they are getting ready to unleash every pedo rapist and violent felon on us”
Given the liberal leftist love of criminals and the contempt they have for the law-abiding… it’s what they think you deserve….
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Hey question for those of you lot in Europe or in Asia or South America if any of y’all live there. Is this solely an American issue where one of the major political parties is doing there best to drown the country in rapists, murderers, criminals of various sorts, and illegals. While at the same time the opposition party doesn’t seem to care to stop them. For that matter lets add Stringer Bell’s point and toss in the question of are they also extremely quick to defend Israel too?
This is an actual question, well questions actually. I am not trying to be funny or make a point or anything else, I am generally want to know. I have a theory, but as I live in America and not Europe, Asia, or South America I only get generalities from overseas. So any of you lot who live there, please chime in.
Oh I should say current residents is what I am looking for, not American’s who vacation there once or twice a year, or expatriates who left Europe, Asia, or South America a decade plus ago. I’m looking for current data.
Thank you.
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I talked to a left-wing colleague (a tautology if there ever was one) today. He’s adamant that the VA measures on no mandatory sentencing for rapists are a gift to … right-wingers.
Can anybody guess the line of reasoning he used? What else can we do if not entertain ourselves by guessing at this point?
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There’s this brief quote from the FAMM (Families Against Mandatory Minimums) website: “Decades of evidence show that lengthy, mandatory sentences do not reduce crime, but impose high economic and social costs on taxpayers and families.”
Now, I haven’t sifted through the decades of evidence, so I can’t speak on this subject with any expertise, but perhaps your colleague is emphasizing the economic costs on taxpayers angle.
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Thank you for trying to guess but no, it’s a lot more fun than this or I wouldn’t have posted.
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Ah, fun. In that case, I’m temporarily at a loss. Looking forward to the answer.
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“no mandatory sentencing for rapists are a gift to … right-wingers”
He was saying most rapists are right wingers.
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I guess but the way there is more circuitous. He says that it’s a right-wing talking point that many rape accusations are fake.
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I mean, look at the European approach to criminal migrants. As far as criminal justice goes, they seem to be far more lax on crime, though I know less about this. Israel is a mixed bag. I’ll let an actual European give more detailed insights but America certainly isn’t uniquely bad.
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“Decades of evidence show that lengthy, mandatory sentences do not reduce crime, but impose high economic and social costs on taxpayers and families.”
Hello, Colonel!
While I may well agree with the above statement, what do the people from FAMM suggest should be done to restore justice to the families of victims, or to the victims themselves when they survive?
Or are we just supposed to simply accept that some people may kill, rape, disfigure or otherwise terrorise others without paying in any significant way for the crime(s) that they have committed?
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Good afternoon, Avi!
I just found FAMM today, in trying to gain some information about the anti-mandatory minimum sentence stance, proposed bills, etc., so my answer probably isn’t going to hold water.
It seems that the FAMM folks, and those in agreement, are against the idea of a “one-size-fits-all” punishment–every case is different, every individual is different, and those who would administer fair punishment must take such differences into account. Most of the examples on the home page emphasize incarcerated individuals whose crimes were either victimless or “caused minimal harm.” I suppose there’s an assumption that “fair” punishment for the perpetrators constitutes an overall social improvement for everybody (including the victims and their families), although I’ll admit to some personal fuzziness regarding how that works for either short- or long-term.
They’re also big on rehabilitation (not a new idea, of course) and maintaining families (a lot of statistics on how many kids have parents in prison, for example), as well as racial disparities when it comes to punishment.
Anyway, this will be something of a personal journey of discovery and decisions on my end–if I come up with an answer that works for me, I’ll get around to sharing it.
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Yes, those victimless rapes definitely don’t deserve a jail sentence.
I remember back when I was a Democrat we were appalled for months by a Republican politician who talked about “legitimate rapes”. Todd something , if I’m not mistaken. The argument hasn’t changed but it switched sides.
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Todd Akin from Missouri.
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That one, thank you.
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“Yes, those victimless rapes definitely don’t deserve a jail sentence.”
Kid, sure that was sarcasm, but false claims do happen. You are no doubt familiar with the Ghomeshi case: where not one, but four, women not only lied; but conspired to support their charges. Sadly, “hell hath no fury” is sometimes far more accurate than “sugar and spice and all things nice” ;-D
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“They’re also big on rehabilitation “
Nice when it works….. but too often it doesn’t. The primary goal of the prison system is not to rehabilitate but to protect the public from those who have been found to have committed serious crimes. Period.
Lock up John. Q. Criminelle for six years and that’s six years he cannot victimize the public. Good. It’s also maybe six years for him to consider what got him in prison and how he can avoid that in the future (like…. don’t commit crimes).
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The worst part, in my opinion, is the one on “racial disparities.” If you are bothered by race or sex disparities in crime, you are never going to have a working system of criminal justice.
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Yeah, and you can add religion/culture to the disparities. Remember the Scottish teenager protecting her sister with a knife and hatchet? Charged by police until public outrage caused them to actually investigate, only to find that the porn pair were actually filming them as the girl had claimed.
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Are you considering capital punishment, or perhaps merely flogging and/or exile?
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Personally I’ve always been of the opinion that the punishment system should look something like this.
Minor Crimes done for good reason, (Starvation/needing money for medicine) It does occasionally happen, so best to have a category for it. Basically the local government pays to fix the issue, and once the emergency is the criminal does some public service time till the costs have been repaid or 5 years have passed. (5 years of successful service) If the public service is not done, then upgraded to 5 years of hard labor. Scammers will be punished basically.
Minor Crimes. Hard labor, each time its repeated the time gets longer and the hard labor gets worse. This lets people burn their aggression (protestors, etc.), but at the same time makes any damage to society whole with their labor. And if idiots want to keep doing things, well their debt to society will be paid off even if they spend their entire lives in leg irons.
Major Crimes, (Rape, Murder, Theft, etc.) First offense is hard labor min sentence a decade, second time is execution to be carried out within the year, not decades later. This would keep the number of criminals down as if was deliberate they will likely do it again, they will not do it a third time.
As for the supporters of the criminals I have always considered exile to be perfectly justified. Unless they are a public official, then its hard labor followed by exile. Examples must be made. After all most people learn from examples. Not everyone, but if 4 of 5 can learn from example then examples should be made.
I don’t actually agree with flogging. In a bedroom sure, but public flogging as a punishment really doesn’t do anything one way or the next. It’s like cutting off fingers for theft. All it does is make it more likely that they will try again.
No for stuff like this you need to either wipe out the cause of the crime, wipe out the desire to commit the crime, or wipe out the criminal. Flogging really doesn’t do anything besides cause temporary pain, and potentially medical bills depending upon if you mean light, or beating the person until they are next to dead. It’s just not worth it at the end of the day.
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I really hate the idea of paying for criminals to basically sit in a prison doing nothing all day for years. Hard Labor makes sure that the money going into the prison system is at least to a certain point being paid back.
That being said I do believe you need people to make sure that things don’t go to far. Before the insane asylums were shut down, some of the people running them almost certainly deserved the noose. So best to head that sort of nonsense off with watch groups. Or at least something like it.
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Agree with much of your post, but we are going to have to agree to disagree on flogging. Contrary to TV/movies, many repeated criminals have a low IQ, and too often FAS. Many of the latter group seem to have absolutely no sense of conscience, what would you suggest?
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