I think everybody is being very unfair to Trump over his abortion comments. Because he was absolutely right. If you believe that abortion is murder, then the only logical thing for you to do is to want aborting women to go to jail on, at the very least, accessory to murder charge. And if you say abortion is murder but oppose jailing women who make this crime take place, then you are a hypocrite.
And I’m glad that Trump drew attention to this glaring contradiction at the heart of the “abortion is murder but I oppose bringing the murderers up on murder charges.” That woman in Georgia got death penalty for telling her boyfriend to kill her husband and helping him gain access to the husband. So it only makes sense that if abortion is murder, then all women who ever aborted should get death penalty. If it is murder.
Now let’s see people who say they believe it’s murder campaign on the slogan, “Death penalty to women who abort!” That would be honest and courageous.
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He just violated the not-so-secret rule that says, “Of course you want to punish women for abortion. You’re just not supposed to say it out loud when you push all these rules because it scares the horses (and women). ”
Eh. I’m not giving anybody credit. Recognizing women as moral actors is not even the bar. It’s under the bar.
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Totally agree with this.
There’s really not much of a difference between Trump and the republican party except he doesn’t totally rely on subterfuge or dogwhistles to make his point. His racism and misogyny is overt; now that’s what bothers the republicans.
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Thank you for posting this. More people need to step up and point out this hypocracy. Logic is being thrown out the window in this country. I admire your courage.
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https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/715584865543053313
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That’s what I’ve always said, that those who want to outlaw abortion and not punish women who try to get abortions are hypocrites (and they usually claim in effect that women can’t be held accountable for their actions in such a situation, ie they are not moral agents).
I’m in favor of abortion on demand for whatever reason a woman wants even though I personally despise some reasons (such as those who use abortion as sex selection).
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“I dislike your views but I am in admiration of their logical consistency …”
HAHAHAHAHA 🙂
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I agree. In addition, if you believe abortion is murder then there should not be exceptions for rape or incest; that should count as manslaughter, at least.
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The easy way around this logical conundrum would be to allow a defence of temporary insanity due to pregnancy. It fits with the way the “abortion is murder” group think.
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Off topic: you may want to read about what’s in store for Canada’s 2016 budget if you have significant bank deposits remaining there …
http://www.inquisitr.com/2928566/bank-bail-in-provision-cdic-contingent-convertible-debt-coco-budget-2016/
I suspect the idea of becoming an involuntary shareholder of a failing bank will not appeal to quite a few people, and I am at this point quite chuffed to be in the position of not even being able to break a Canadian fiver at this point.
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You’re obviously correct — as was Trump — that this is the logical conclusion of the (supposed) moral position held by Pro-Life Conservatives.
That is, if you listen to what these Pro-Life Conservatives claim they believe — that anything that interrupts a pregnancy, from any point from the moment an egg is fertilized onward, is murder — then yes, obviously abortion of any sort is murder.
In which case something like 1/3 of all women in America are murderers.
So the question follows, if these Pro-Life Conservatives actually do believe that abortion of any sort is murder — the same as shooting a 4 year old in the head, as I’ve seen some of them claim — if they really believe that, then why aren’t they arguing, along with Trump and Kevin Williamson, for hanging 1/3 of all American women in the town square?
You’d almost have to conclude that they don’t actually believe that abortion is murder, at this point.
You’d almost have to conclude that they’re using the whole abortion-is-murder thing as a talking point to fire up their base.
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Not true — millions of people can easily hold entirely contradictory beliefs at the same time. The worldwide persistence of religious mythology is a perfect example.
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Maybe there’s some cognitive dissonance going on there but I think the bigger issue is that the republican base just doesn’t care about policy. And hasn’t for quite some time.
Which is why I laugh at news pundits who claim his policy gaffes will hurt him. Lol no. Does anyone think his fans have a well-formulated set of esoteric policy positions that only Trump could manage to discover? They just do not believe in public policy as a concept. Do you think when Bush was making speeches about tort reform (lol) and how sad it was that OB/GYNs couldn’t practice their love for women across the country because they could get sued for lots of money, his base was all ‘Yeah, this is relevant to my interests’? Nope. These are culture warriors angry about gays, minorities, and women with sexual agency. That’s what drives them, not policy.
To have conflicting beliefs you must have deeply held beliefs to begin with. Politics is 100% performance art to them. He’s the alpha male who ‘wins’ and will stick it to liberal pussies and prius-driving mama’s boys come november and that’s good enough for them.
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This, I discern, is one of my main problems in life, or one of the main things that confuse me: talking with people who have no deeply held beliefs, and who are simply talking. I never think this is a possibility, but it would explain a lot.
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Most homicides of already born people are not classified as murder and most of those that are, are not considered capital murder.
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Well that’s good to know, maybe women who abort won’t have to end up on death row.
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Yes — what they are really comparing it to is homicide, not murder (that is just how they put it in their propaganda)
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