Our Mother Europe, 1942

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      1. Those two chicks are Sweden and Switzerland, who managed to stay neutral during the war.

        Norway was conquered by the Germans and is shown under the mother hen.

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  1. Strange card from Nazi-occupied France, grouping Germany and all the pro-Axis or conquered countries under a benevolent mother hen, while an angry UK heads for a Jewish American trap.

    Apparently, whoever published the card didn’t want to offend France’s German masters.

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    1. Speaking about Nazi-occupied France, one of the strongest WW2 depictions in literature I encountered was Arthur Miller’s play “Incident at Vichy”. The play is

      “about a group of men detained in Vichy France; and held to wait unknowingly, for what turns out to be their “racial” inspection by German military officers and Vichy French police” [wiki]

      No horrors such as torture or murder happen “on screen”, yet reading it was so hard I stopped in the middle.

      Once read that one of the reasons for popularity of Anne Frank’s diary was that it did not describe Nazi concentration camps’ horrors but her inner life during the hiding period.

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  2. Reminded of the poem by Kingsley Amis:

    The Last War (English)

    The first country to die was normal in the evening,
    Ate a good but plain dinner, chatted with some friends
    Over a glass, and went to bed soon after ten;
    And in the morning was found disfigured and dead.
    That was a lucky one.

    At breakfast the others heard about it, and kept
    Their eyes on their plates. Who was guilty? No one knew,
    But by lunch-time three more would never eat again.
    The rest appealed for frankness, quietly their guns,
    Declared, “This can’t go on.”

    They were right. Only the strongest turned up for tea:
    The old ones with the big estates hadn’t survived
    The slobbering blindfold violence of the afternoon.
    One killer of many? Was it a gang, or all-against-all?
    Somebody must have known.

    But each of them sat there watching the others, until
    Night came and found them anxious to get it over.
    Then the lights went out. A few might have lived, even then;
    Innocent, they thought (at first) it still mattered what
    You had or hadn’t done.

    They were wrong. One had been lenient with his servants;
    Another ran an island brothel, but rarely left it;
    The third owned a museum, the fourth a remarkable gun;
    The name of the fifth was quite unknown, but in the end
    What was the difference? None.

    Homicide, pacifist, crusader, cynic, gentile, jew
    Staggered about moaning, shooting into the dark.
    Next day, to tidy up as usual, the sun came in
    When they and their ammunition were all used up,
    And found himself alone.

    Upset, he looked them over, to separate, if he could,
    The assassins from the victims, but every face
    Had take on the flat anonymity of pain;
    And soon they’ll all smell alike, he thought, and felt sick,
    And went to bed at noon.

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    1. \ The rest appealed for frankness, quietly their guns,

      Should be:

      “The rest appealed for frankness, quietly COCKED their guns,”

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  3. That’s a very Vichy card, anti-UK propaganda from a very dark time, clearly setting the Jews and Americans as an evil alliance.

    Offensive, and hardly relevant to the present situation in Europe.

    I hope. I really hope. However much it feels like a distorted version of the 1930s, or the flashback start of one of those post-apocalyptic movies.

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    1. “hardly relevant to the present situation in Europe.”

      Well, some lefty commentators (Rachel Maddow on MSNBC last night) are in a hysterical panic over Brexit. Maddow literally said that it’s unraveling the ultimate victory of Word War II (the victory being a united and therefore peaceful Europe).

      Maddow seemed to think that the EU was designed to keep Germany and France from starting a third world war in Europe. Apparently, she’s never heard of NATO, which is still alive and well.

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      1. Actually, the dumbest thing I heard on television yesterday wasn’t spoken by a left-winger.

        Pat Buchanan, speaking on “The McLaughlin Group,”said that the US government should make it plain to Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania — all members of NATO — that the United States would NOT come to their defense if Russia occupied them, because we don’t dare risk getting into a war with Putin for any reason.

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          1. No. We have treaty obligations to go to war if necessary to defend a NATO country, and even under President Obama, the US would have no choice about honoring those treaties.

            Putin knows that — even if Buchanan doesn’t — which is why there WON’T be any general war in the Baltics.

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            1. The US has already shown it easily throws its treaties out of the window when the fancy suits. Remember what happened to the Budapest agreements?

              Everybody under the age of 40 in the US is deeply isolationist. I can’t imagine any politician trying to sell them on war. That would be political suicide.

              I’m not happy about any of this but it is what it is.

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    2. I’m very preoccupied by the rise of ultra right movements in Europe and the US. I’m not a panic monger but this is getting very serious.

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  4. \I’m very preoccupied by the rise of ultra right movements in Europe and the US. I’m not a panic monger but this is getting very serious.

    Similar to you thinking about Ukraine, I think about Israel most of the time.
    🙂
    The rise of the right didn’t seem important to me since Israel seems more right wing than EU or America, and the latter pair are not involved in a Middle East conflict / war leading to radicalization. If my country is OK (except for the conflict), why wouldn’t America and EU be fine too? They even have stronger economies in addition to peace.

    Or am I wrong here and the Israeli right is not much stronger than an European one? Or has a different character?

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    1. Somebody said yesterday, “Why should I care about the stock market crash if I don’t invest in stocks?” Of course, global economy is a space we all inhabit whether we want to or not. Something happens across the ocean, and we all feel it right here. There are no self-contained countries that exist in a vacuum. Just consider what will happen to Israel if the US elects an isolationist party or leader and stops investing in Israel altogether. For how long will there be an Israel after that?

      You can’t say, ” I don’t care if my neighbor’s house is burning because mine isnt.” We are all each other’s neighbor, and when one house is on fire, we are all in danger of catching it.

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      1. \You can’t say, ” I don’t care if my neighbor’s house is burning because mine isnt.”

        I have not said that. What I have said was that Israel is probably more right wing but we are not burning yet. Fortunately. So, may be, Europe and America won’t burn either.

        Or are they becoming more right wing than Israel?! I can’t believe that. I always thought my country had been extremely right wing for decades because of several factors and that nobody in Europe / America could ever equal us here.

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        1. The rise of ultra nationalism that we are seeing is a reaction to the erosion of the nation-state model. This erosion will not happen peacefully unless people start making very specific and concerted efforts to soften the blow. For now, nobody is even considering the possibility of maybe trying to do it.

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          1. Is Ultra Nationalism really on the rise that much in the US?

            I definitely think Civic Nationalism is gaining a lot of momentum. In the spring of 2016 I listened a lot to American Jewish talk show host, and early Trump supporter Michael Savage. These quotes sums up his ideas well.

            “Savage has summarized his political philosophy in three words: borders, language, and culture. Savage has characterized his views as conservative nationalism”

            “He opposes illegal immigration to the United States, supports the English-only movement and argues that liberalism and progressivism are degrading American culture.”

            Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage

            During the election I think under the alt right umbrella were both Ultra Nationalists, the much larger group the Civic Nationalists, and an in between group. The quotes mentioned above are common goals for all nationalist so they worked together.

            For civic nationalists I would put people like: Michael Savage, Paul Joesph Watson, Mike Cernovich, Aaron Clarey, and Milo Yiannopoulos in this group. I went to a Milo event and even meet some hispanic fans that I would consider in this group. These people have huge followings.

            On the ultra right I do think Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer fit in the group your talking about. They don’t have as large of a fan base as the people I mentioned above.

            In between is a group that I think a good term is European Zionist. I put Ramzpaul and Stephan Molyneaux in this group.

            After the election there was that Richard Spencer incident and the more moderate alt right people distanced themselves.

            Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHKU1n5kTWQ

            My other question I’ve been having is how will Israel survive an open borders globalist world? Wouldn’t Israel be the first country to be destroyed?

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            1. “My other question I’ve been having is how will Israel survive an open borders globalist world?”

              That question is moot, because the idea of “an open borders globalist world” isn’t about to become a reality — it’s simply a fantasy for academics to discuss, along with the niceties of “international law” and “global equality.”

              If you want to see how the concept of open international borders works in in the real world, take a look at the collapsing European Union.

              Economic globalization is well underway and is basically irreversible, despite what Trump thinks he’s going to accomplish by tearing up international trade agreements. But the political nation-state, with its inherent nationalism and demand for secure borders, isn’t going away as long as civilization persists. (A general nuclear war might temporarily disrupt it.)

              As for Israel, NO American President — as in NONE, of any party that could possibly win election in the U.S. — is going to abandon it, period. That’s a political impossibility, despite any campaign rhetoric that hints otherwise.

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              1. A national government that lacks a national economy is a joke. It can dupe people into granting it legitimacy for a very short time with bug bear tales about scary immigrants and such but it’s a remedy of a very short duration.

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            2. Israel will be eroded into nothingness not so much by open borders as by consumerism. Very soon it will be impossible to convince the young to curtail their romantic choices for the sake of the larger idea of preserving ethnicity. Consumers don’t sacrifice their consumption choices for any idea. That’s the nature of consumerism. Everything that stands in the way is destroyed.

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              1. Milo said something interesting about more well off Trump supporters and Western nationalists. I can try and find the exact quote but it was something like some people care more about culture than economics because they don’t have to worry about how to get their next meal and are willing to give up some wealth to preserve culture. I think these type of people exist in Israel.

                I agree with Dreidel except for:

                “As for Israel, NO American President — as in NONE, of any party that could possibly win election in the U.S. — is going to abandon it, period. That’s a political impossibility, despite any campaign rhetoric that hints otherwise.”

                I am a millennial and I know a lot of Social Justice Warrior type people that hate Israel. They are pro Palestine and think Israelis are racist, and the Israeli government is an “apartheid regime”.

                Also many muslims are very active anti Israel activists. With refugee programs growing the muslim population I think they will convince more people to be against Israel, maybe enough for a nominee (probably a democrat) to not support Israel.

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              2. Also some far right people have weird conspiracies about Jews and Israel. They are against supporting the nation.

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        2. Since its creation in 1948, Israel has been in a perpetual existential state of war against hate-filled, rabid enemies whose only purpose in life is to destroy the Jewish nation.

          Its government has to be more right-wing and nationalistic than the US and West European governments, or Israel couldn’t survive.

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  5. OK, that is one seriously weird card.

    The only thing I can add is the observation that it’s not only a “1942” card, but it’s an Easter (“Pâques”) 1942 card.

    I know, the whole Vichy/Petain era was messed-up, but who could possibly be pleased to be the recipient of this bizarre image and “message”? At Easter !?!?

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  6. Trivial semi-off topic. I recognize all the flags but one.

    Under the chicken there is (left to right)

    Finland, ????, Netherlands, France, Spain, Nazi Germany, Italy and Romania

    What is that second flag? I tried a flag finder sight but white blue red vertical tri-color only turned up a probable spurious flag for an unsuccessful breakaway region in Russia in the 1990s….

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    1. I don’t know. At this point I am thinking it is supposed to be the Slovak flag done wrong. The stripes should be horizontal. Also I don’t think the third flag is supposed to be the Netherlands an occupied state. But, rather I think it is supposed to be Hungary, a German ally. The stripes appear to me to be red, white, and green rather than red, white, and blue.

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  7. “At this point I am thinking it is supposed to be the Slovak flag done wrong.”

    Or mighty Slovenia?!? Or Tsarist Russia sideways?

    “rather I think it is supposed to be Hungary,”

    I though the color might be green but I wasn’t sure and I though the Netherlands was a safe bet. The colors are upside down for Hungary whose flag is (top to bottom) is red, white, green.

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    1. Slovenia was not an “independent” state like Slovakia was. Yes, Hungary is upside down and Slovakia sideways. But, if we only look at “independent” states then it makes sense since the Netherlands was occupied.

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  8. (This comment is being posted out of sequence at this bottom of the page so WordPress won’t display it in a 1-inch-wide column.)

    “I know a lot of Social Justice Warrior type people that hate Israel …Also some far right people have weird conspiracies about Jews and Israel …Also many muslims are very active anti Israel activists.”

    When I was a staff psychiatrist at a California state hospital for the criminally insane back in the 1970’s, the majority of my patients were paranoid schizophrenic killers. But there was never any danger that they might gain control of the ayslum.

    The social justice warriors (SJWs) in this country just got wiped off the map politically. Now the shrillest idiots among them, like the writers at “Slate.com” and “Slate.com,” are screaming for the Democratic Party to turn hard left and follow them across the barren sand into the wilderness for another forty years. That worked for the Jews 3,000 years ago, but can today’s SJWs afford to wander about until 2056?

    The Muslim population in the U.S. is about 1%. Their political influence is NIL. The Jews are between 1.7 and 2.6%, and their influence — thanks to their preference for culture (New York) or sunshine (Florida), along with America’s unique state-by-state electoral-vote-system — gives them power far beyond that percentage.

    Many American Jewish voters have an unfortunate habit of voting Democratic (or as the SJWs would say, “against their economic interest”), but they’re never going to the polls for any candidate whose policy would lead to the distruction of Israel.

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  9. \ Israel will be eroded into nothingness not so much by open borders as by consumerism. Very soon it will be impossible to convince the young to curtail their romantic choices for the sake of the larger idea of preserving ethnicity.

    It won’t become a real problem since there are only Jews in Israel, except for FSU immigrants with Jewish fathers whom I (and many other secular Jews) see as Jews too.

    As for Arabs, we are at war and there is this additional factor of “if you marry an Arab, you have to convert to Islam and raise your kids as Arabs in a very religious, restricting for women culture, in which honor killings still happen relatively often.” Not many “consumers” would sign up for such for long.

    Imagine a French dating a German during WW1 or WW2. There is a real war and seas of hatred in Israel between Jews and Arabs. It is not like in Europe or America, even though there are tensions there too.

    In fact, Israel is going in the more Right wing and more religious direction, so such marriages may become even rarer. They are already almost non-existent.

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    1. It’s going to become as impossible to keep people trapped in a small besieged country when there is a whole planet of opportunities out there. Scary stories about anti-semites around every corner can only go so far.

      Consumerism is a force nobody can evade.

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