Shriveled Progressivism

My progressivism has atrophied into utter insignificance. But the diagnosis is spot-on. I have zero interest in being loyal to an idea, party, or worse yet, a specific politician. Political partisanship is a low-IQ pastime.

I like this test. It’s very accurate.

11 thoughts on “Shriveled Progressivism

  1. I also got expansive pluralist but couldn’t save the results. I tried to send them to my twitter but it’s just a link to the site and not the results. (note to makers of the test, this kind of thing is only fun if people can compare the relative percentages).

    About a third of the questions seemed flawed to me but I decided to answer each one though my sublimely nuanced takes were not recorded, just the yes or no….

    My results were less centered on respecting tradition and authority and the progressive and leftist economic slices seemed too big tbh (probably US bias in those who made the test).

    My liberty loving chunk was much bigger.

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  2. “Moderate Centrist” Meh.

    There were a lot of questions on there that simply couldn’t be answered in any meaningful way. Like when it’s a question about schools… which schools? It matters a lot. No, we shouldn’t be experimenting on Kindergarteners. Yes, Universities are probably good places to conduct some research. If you’re homeschooling or private schooling you should be able to do whatever works for the students, and if something’s not working you should have the freedom to *try something else*. Public schools have proven themselves untrustworthy for this, it only works for systems with good parent-teacher-student feedback mechanisms. If the feedback mechanisms could be fixed, perhaps public schools could try out alternative curricula as well.

    How much of that falls under “schools should be sites for exploration and experimentation”?

    Like, what the hell do they mean by that? What schools? What are we experimenting with? Is this about nude kindergartens and exploring our gender, or a wide variety of high-school programs that includes practical apprenticeships, shop class, bookkeeping, professional licensing etc.? Or are we talking about Universities doing agricultural research? Those are all very different things that might fall under the rubric of “schools doing exploration and experimentation”.

    So… (SKIP)

    That mushy-question paralysis affected probably 25-30% of the questions. I like precision and clarity, and this test didn’t have any.

    My authority-respecting and progressive slices were about equally miniscule. And even that is questionable. I have a tremendous respect for *some* authority. Just not all authority. 

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    1. To me, “experimentation” sounds like “sexual experimentation”, and I immediately go “no”. I’m a little traumatized by the gender obsession in schools, so I don’t even think of anything else. You right, this could and should mean a large variety of things, but I no longer trust that any experimentation beyond unhealthy sex fads will happen.

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      1. I read a lot of John Holt, Everett Reimer, Ivan Illich, and JT Gatto in my formative years. I think it has permanently skewed my perspective when it comes to “experiments” in education 😉

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      2. But it wasn’t just education, it was all of it. Like labor unions: good or bad? Well, that depends… Social movements: should they be headed up by religious leaders? Well, *which* religious leaders are we talking about here? Gandhi? MLK Jr? Jim Jones? Farrakhan?  The Westboro Baptist guy? It makes kind of a large difference.

        I strongly dislike answering vague questions that are open to a great deal of interpretation.

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        1. “vague questions that are open to a great deal of interpretation”

          I mostly decided to answer them in a vacuum with the most charitable interpretation possible and applied my basic values to them.

          So experimentation in education? Yes. Why not? I’m always trying out new things, some work, some don’t. Progress in any field comes through experimentation. The trick is when to recognize the experiment has failed and it’s time to pull the plug.

          Labor unions good? Yes. I know the reality of unions has often been imperfect but working conditions would be worse without them. And… the results of deunionification are not going to be pretty (already are not pretty).

          Social movements: should they be headed up by religious leaders? I have no problem with that in theory. They certainly can, why not? But I balk at ‘should’ so no.

          So my results are more related to ideal conditions…

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    2. I got moderate centrist too, and I suspect it’s because we skipped questions. Though this particular one I just went with my gut and said no. Some of the questions I didn’t understand what they were getting at though. I don’t like my result so I choose to believe my results were wrong lol

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  3. So this was amusing but also quite crap.

    “You are an Advocate …”

    The only thing it got right, INFJ personality type, it’s literally the counsellor or advocate type.

    “Your politics are moderate …”

    Right, so, may not have mentioned that all of the Oswald Mosley references are a total joke.

    Yes, my people joined the British Union of Fascists … and because of them, I am very matter of factly an anarcho-capitalist.

    It’s the only Libertarian position I recognise because play stupid government games, win stupid government prizes.

    Every question for which the form was “government should” got a hard NO if the next words were essentially “coerce” and a hard YES if the next words were essentially “abandon”, “avoid”, or “exit”.

    So how does wanting to disestablish government make me a moderate?

    Some of you BTW likely have answers I may find amusing. :-)

    “Your viewpoint diversity is exclusive …”

    Starting with not giving equal points toward stupidity versus thoughtfulness.

    It’s why I went to Singapore for major medical treatment, because if I’m paying for it … yeah, does that hurt for a few of you?

    Good. It’s because your professions became stupidity tolerant.

    As for specific traits?

    “Progressive” does not exist for me. Oh yes, such a big surprise coming from someone related to three of the justices at Nuremberg.

    “Left economics” barely exists, and I suspect it to be an answer which I interpreted as whether I tolerate large entity bullying if it’s corporate rather than governmental.

    Everything else is dialled up to 11.

    Not great, clearly produced by Americans who have no familiarity with my kind of views.

    But that’s OK, when their governments fail, I can help with dismantling big corporate bullies.

    Because what are Advocates for? :-)

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  4. Moderate centrist (i.e. somebody who is,from both leftwing and conservative perspectives , “against us” 🙂

    Some of those questions have several possible meanings, some more conservative and some more left-wing. I was sometimes puzzled by them…

    and there were also questions like “X is bad because Y” and I believe that X is bad but for a different reason…

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