At the Festival

We were at the festival for the historic Route 66 today, and, God, I love these small-town festivals. Inflatable castles, a petting zoo, a live band, local artisans, games for kids. Our town festivals are always held in the square in front of the public library, so those of us who are into reading can retire to the library to read on regular occasions.

At the festival, I saw a couple with three most magnificent large collies. The owners were decked out in Ukrainian symbolics, so of course I had to approach them. They have no personal connection to Ukraine but are great supporters.

“Isn’t it great how the Russian offensive on Kharkiv failed within days!” they gushed.

“Yes!” I agreed.

“And how amazing was Zelensky’s speech in France!”

“Yes!”

“And did you see what that veteran did, so touching!”

“Yes!”

“And did you hear what Putin said at that stupid forum of his that nobody visited?”

“Yes!”

“I only wish we took all the money we are sending to Israel and used it to help Ukraine win!”

“Yes! Wait, what?”

11 thoughts on “At the Festival

  1. Sad to say, I’m not surprised. These folks probably think Ukraine is a European country full of white Christians just like themselves fighting against “evil Commies”, but see the war in Israel as something involving “weird, foreign” people they cannot relate to at all.

    These folks may know very little about Jews and virtually nothing about Islam or Palestinian people, to them the war is between two groups of weird foreigners. If pressed, they might feel more sympathetic towards Israel because they seem “more European” but probably wish “Let them fight each other and let God sort it out”. Ukrainians seem like white Christian folks like themselves, but Jews and Palestinians are strange desert people and it doesn’t concern them, if this makes sense

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  2. @ShadowsCollide These folks probably think Ukraine is a European country full of white Christians just like themselves fighting against “evil Commies”

    Why “these folks”? What’s wrong with the word “people”?

    Ukraine IS a European country – no need to “think” about that. As a European country, by definition, its majority population is “white” and Christian, and it would be both strange and improbable if it were not so. Even the UK, in spite of the massive immigration of non-Europeans to which it has been subjected over the past three decades is still over 90% “white”.

    Now, the problem is that in many so-called “intellectual” circles, being white and Christian (and heterosexual, I might add) is seen as the quintessence of the oppressor figure in the neo-Marxist dialectic of oppressor-oppressed that has been raging through academia for the past 30 years ravaging any attempt at serious intellectual debate and destroying all serious rigorous scholarship with it.

    Whatever the Ukraine-supporting couple thought of Israel and its war against Hamas, I don’t think it helps to bring any racially-based, unwarranted suppositions into the discussion.

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  3. In SA, Israel is popular with Jews and fundamentalist Christians.

    Palestine is popular with Muslims and anti-apartheid activists/woke leftists.

    Russia is popular with communists and anti-western African nationalists.

    Ukraine is popular with pro-westerners.

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    1. Makes sense.

      I’m in awe of IDF’s extraordinary hostage rescue yesterday. Aside from any political beliefs, the dedication, professionalism and effectiveness are impossible not to admire.

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  4. Regarding the rescue op, I am almost getting shocked after reading worldwide reactions since this morning:

    “A former IDF spokesperson pushed back against a BBC anchor who asked if Israeli forces would have warned Gazans ahead of a secret raid to liberate a handful of hostages so they could seek safety.

    “Would there have been a warning to those civilians [Gazans] for them to get out on time?” BBC anchor Helena Humphrey asked former IDF spokesperson Jonathan Conricus during a recent interview.”

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      1. “So they could move the hostages?”

        that’s exactly why…. all those ‘free Gaza’ types support Oct 7 and they support Hamas keeping the hostages…

        I suppose there are some that don’t but…. they pretty much all do.

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  5. Curious info:

    Was Noa Argamani held hostage by an Al Jazeera journalist and his physician father? According to Palestinian reporting, that is true.

    And more reactions from the civilized (and less so) world:

    The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the European Union, Josep Borrell, on Saturday night condemned Israel for the attacks on Nuseirat in central Gaza, which took place while the four hostages were rescued from Hamas captivity.

    Borrell welcomed the release of Noa Argamani, Almog Meir Jan, Shlomi Ziv and Andrey Kozlov, and called for the release of all the hostages who remain in captivity. At the same time, he attacked Israel for “another massacre of civilians” and said the reports from Gaza “are appalling. We condemn this in the strongest terms. The bloodbath must end immediately.”

    The attacks also led to a sharp diplomatic confrontation between Israel and Norway.

    Norway’s Deputy Foreign Minister, Andreas Motzfeldt Kravik, strongly condemned Israel for what he defined as “another massacre of civilians in Gaza.”

    “Norway condemns attacks on civilians in the strongest terms,” he also wrote in a post on the X platform. “We call for the release of all remaining hostages – now. We call for a cease-fire – now. The suffering must end.”

    Egypt also condemned Israel following the attacks in Nuseirat, saying that “this is a violation of international humanitarian law and human rights.”

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    1. This is the Left at its worst. One thing they can’t stand is when nobody pays attention, so let’s celebrate this great victory and let them whine all they want.

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