San Sebastián is plastered with Palestinian flags and “save Palestine” slogans. I kind of started to feel bad for Palestinians after observing this for a day and a half. Mannequins in fancy clothing stores are decked in Palestinian flags. Palestine-themed beach towels and grocery totes are on sale. We went into a candy store and at the cash register there were chocolate gift sets in the form of the Palestinian flag and the words “free Palestine” made out of candies. Clearly, nobody takes the idea that there’s a genocide in Palestine seriously, or they wouldn’t make such a mockery of it.
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Au contraire. Nobody sees this on the daily basis and not feel disgusted:
https://x.com/KreaseChan/status/1803108146904240411?s=19
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Or this: https://x.com/TameeOliveFern/status/1802132729481589185?s=19
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Or this. https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1802473488210411816?s=19
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“sees this on the daily basis”
soldiers playing at homoerotic stuff…. about as rare as dirt
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Kill off families of civilians and play in their women’s underwear for the camera. Very moral. Very democracy.
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“Very moral. Very democracy.”
So…. what are you so upset about? Cause a black bra and white panties are pretty bad… (stay with one color…. only vvhores mix like that). But now you’re saying they’re killing families of civilians? In that picture? Those soldiers?
Here’s a clue…. not everybody is you. Not everybody reads the same things you do into pictures.
Why do you have such a hard on for the Palestinians anyway? Chances are they despise you and your single secular state idea. Arabs in general hate, hate HATE the idea of secular democracy and you want to shove it down their throats by force?
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You keep repeating this, even after all we’ve discussed here.
I despise the genocide Israel is waging in Palestine, the land grab, and the killings. I don’t need to have a hard on to be against this.
The question is why YOU don’t have a problem with mass killings (unless those being killed are people you relate to for some reason).
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“why YOU don’t have a problem with”
I figured out the Israeli-Palestinian problem a long time ago, both sides want all the land.
Many (most?) Israelis are willing to enter into some kind of deal with the Palestinians to share land for peace but almost no Palestinians are. They are entirely, 100 % clear – they want to either kill all the Jews or drive them away. That goal hasn’t changed since 1948.
But… the Palestinians are so disorganized that they don’t have anyone who can enforce unpopular decisions on the ground and are not remotely capable of running a country. It’s not my fight it’s theirs and will continue until they change course/goals or they’re gone.
Their call. Not mine. I’m not going to waste my limited time and resources pursuing policies that have no slightest chance of success.
Your choice might be different but don’t expect to gain supporters by posting pictures without context.
¿Claro?
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Where in this report, or in any one we’ve read over the last decades, is the inking that Israelis (or their leaders) want to share the land with anyone?
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“this report, or in any one we’ve read over the last decades”
First…. you rely on the New York Times? Seriously? It’s a terrible newspaper (according to me, who has training in journalism).
Second…. look up Israeli withdrawal from Gaza in 2005… which included forcible removal of settlers by the Israeli government. Find any comparable move by the Palestinians.
Third…. priorities change. The Palestinians (who famously never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity) keep doing their best to convince Irsaelis that they cannot be trusted (something Arab governments realized many years ago) and do not want peace except at the cost of any Jewish presence in the region.
Find a bunch of Palestinians who want a secular democracy and get back to me. Your gullibility is extremely boring. Stop trying to convince people with pictures with no context except whatever it is you project onto them.
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You and I know that those calling the shots in Israel today don’t want a “secular democracy” either. There’s a reason they call it a “Jewish state” not a democracy. So we’re back in this cycle that I find equally boring, if not dishonest. If Netanyahu wanted a two state solution, he’d have actualized it. But that will come at the cost of losing the support he has with the extreme right wing thugs that want the whole place for themselves. And so we’re back at square one.
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“we’re back at square one”
You’re back at square one. I got off that road to nowhere long ago. Not my business and nothing I can do or say can change anything there.
What about the Uyghurs in China? They make a better, edgier cause. They don’t have the normie chic of commodified ‘resistance’ to Israel but they are having a very bad time of it.
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What about the Christians in Nigeria? AFAIK they have not been committing atrocities on anybody, but they are daily being kidnapped and murdered, their churches burned, by Fulani and Boko Haram. Over fifty thousand of them have been killed since 2009.
Where’s the outrage? The internet trolling? The protests in the streets?
–(crickets)–
So… why don’t college students care about them? Because they’re black, or because they’re Christian?
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*Raises hand*
I know why college students aren’t protesting about that. It’s because the people kidnapping and killing these Christians are not sponsored by the US government like Israel is. Duh. If the US was sending billions in arms to Russia, everyone will be protesting Russia’s war as well.
Phew, that was an easy one.
Any other obvious questions you have?
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Do you believe that if the US withdrew funding from ISR, that enthusiasm among US college students for the Palestinian cause would evaporate?
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Yes! That’s the whole point!
The protests clearly stated their goals include weaning the US government, universities, and institutions off of Israel’s atrocities. The BDS movement says the same.
If my government isn’t complicit in killing of civilians, then it becomes just another crises in the world which I have no control over.
It’s the complicity that we’re protesting, yes. Same with Vietnam. Same with South Africa.
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\ If my government isn’t complicit in killing of civilians, then it becomes just another crises in the world which I have no control over.
This ignores the international standing of USA.
Israel is on the brink of a large war with Lebanon because of Hezbollah’s daily attacks. Unlike Iran’s ‘stepchild’ Hamas, Hezbollah is much stronger, enjoys full Iranian support and is one of Iran’s best assets (*) used to control Lebanon, destabilize Israel and support Assad in Syria. Both Iran and Putin are interested in continued Assad’s rule.
Just read a good post (link below) saying that we’re witnessing the formation of the Terrorist International – Hamas, Iran, Russia and probably China. Those actors wish to “destabilize the civilized world and help dictatorships take a more serious place in the political arena”. We are entering the age of wars: Ukraine, Gaza, soon Lebanon I’m afraid and more to come, surely, if those forces are not stopped.
That’s the time and place for US to drop its major ally Israel, leaving us w/o rockets to fight Iran and others who openly call for our genocide, right?
If Iran gains more power in the region and worldwide, if other US allies lose faith in America, if American position in the world weakens, it’s all a small price to pay to make some students feel better?
(*) “Hezbollah was founded in the early 1980’s in the aftermath of the Islamic Revolution in Iran by a group of about 500 militants from the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.”
The full post in Russian is here:
https://paszekpielawski.livejournal.com/3284324.html
\ Do you believe that if the US withdrew funding from ISR, that enthusiasm among US college students for the Palestinian cause would evaporate?
Obviously not for Muslim students, thus not for all students who are currently protesting imo.
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On the positive side, all these “protesters” are very ineffective people with no executive function. They can pout but they have no impact on anything. The best thing is to disregard them because they are like tantruming children. Once you stop paying attention, they get bored had go do something else.
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Excellent! I would love the US to stop funding atrocities too! On this we can agree. I would like the US to start by ending all government funding for baby murder (aka abortion services) both at home and abroad, bioweapons research, NGOs preying on vulnerable would-be immigrants by helping and encouraging them to cross our borders illegally, the chemical and surgical castration of children.
OTOH, it is disturbing that all this time, you’ve been arguing ISR is evil and must be stopped because atrocities, and people deserve better and and and…
…and now those people only matter if there’s US money involved. That seems pretty cold, tbh.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/paying-for-terrorism-where-does-boko-haram-gets-its-money-from-9503948.html
It is not a sure thing that Boko Haram is *not* being funded by the US, directly or indirectly. They’re being funded by someone. Probably Saudi Arabia… a US ally. Who else? Unclear.
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One of my other favorite comboxes has also, unfortunately, acquired one of these– a brand-new commenter who pretends to be interested, but then tries to drag every conversation around to “How dare you have any conversation without including a statement of your support for Palestine, and condemnation of Israel!” even when the original conversation had nothing whatever to do with international politics of any kind. They inevitably start with “I’ve been reading here forever, but only now have I been compelled to comment!” (must be in the handbook) I don’t think they are the same person, but there seem to be an awful lot of them about just now, which suggests some organizational structure.
Undoubtedly some of them are getting paid. I’ve always wondered what the going rate is, and how it’s counted. Like, do you get a bonus for completely derailing a forum? Is it the same for a combox? Hourly wage? Or is it sort of a flat rate per comment? Is there a guidebook? I mean, of course there is— even the CIA has paid trolls and their manual has been leaked a time or two. Is it a work-from-home job, or are they cubicle serfs? In my imagination, I see them trudging off in the evening to the mines, dressed in gray, all day in front of their multiple screens, toggling back and forth between comboxes, sowing discord, promoting the Cause of the Day, using the canned talking points from today’s mass email, eating lunchables at their desks, little bits of their souls sloughing off to be eaten by astral roaches in the office corners…
On the other hand, some people volunteer for it. They like social conflict? Belong to a cult? Mommy/Daddy issues? Mental illness? There are edge cases where the syntax says schizo-type things are going on, but then sometimes it’s a bit difficult to tease those out from paid trolls who just aren’t very good at English. These days, it’s getting harder and harder to sort those out from ordinary American college students who never learned to proofread, or to hold onto a thought for more than one sentence.
It’s a big weird world out there. When things don’t make sense, I’m so curious how they actually work.
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I actually would prefer to believe that this poor person is getting paid to do it. People need to make a living, I get it. But what if it’s somebody who sincerely thinks this is “making the world a better place”? That’s a disturbing possibility.
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Those surely are out there, but I’d bet they’re a tiny minority. It takes a deep well of displaced anger and love for drama to keep wading in like that without remuneration. People who are *for* something, rather than just *against* a bunch of stuff (because unresolved anger issues about stuff they can’t acknowledge), can usually find more constructive strategies.
Paid trolls… I am super curious about that one, and I so want someone who’s done it to describe the working conditions. What does your average working day look like? What’s the payscale? Do you have union protections? fulltime with benefits, or stuck being contractors? Paid under the table? Is it regular legal work where you have to file tax forms, or is it a gray-market scheme where both employer and employees pretend it isn’t real? Is this yet another thing that gets farmed out to Bangalore because US workers are too particular? Is it a good job or just something you do because nothing else is available? Do you get a memo with talking points and suggestions? How often is it updated? Can I see it?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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You’ve got an active imagination, which is cute. For a moment there, I thought you were referring to the Israeli Hasbara bot online who go everywhere to ask “but do you condemn Hamas?” in unison, like their country asked them to.
No, I’m a person of my own, long time reader of the blog, who is both familiar with the writer and whom she’s familiar with. And who is disappointed with her tribal evolution in reflexive defence of Israel.
If I, who is not Ukrainian can root for Ukraine in its war with Russia, I’m perplexed by how she has managed to retain a blind spot in the ongoing pogrom in Palestine.
Of course, I’m getting used to it now, which breaks my heart even more.
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Every side in every conflict these days has got paid trolls. I assume that’s what it is, any time I see multiple different commenters popping up in multiple unrelated forums that I read, at the same time, saying the same things.
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If you are the paid sort, all the questions I have above: would you be willing to answer?? I am all curiosity and would love to talk to someone about how that seedy profession works!
If you are the unpaid sort, and truly your own person: Do you ever convince people to rethink their positions by that sort of harrassment IRL? I have been known to perseverate at great and tedious length on a number of topics (including agriculture, needlework, and vernacular architecture), but alas, have never won over a single convert! It is almost as though people do not like me hanging around and haranguing them about topics that they are not as interested in as I am. I have never dared to continue after they ask me to go away. Perhaps that is where I am going wrong?
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You’ve made a great point about the futility of persistence. That’s all fair and good, and something I’ve wrestled with for a bit. But here’s where I come down, in this case:
I’m not trying to convince YOU or Clarissa anymore. I’ve tried and I’ve seen that nothing is going in, not because of the lack of reasons for a change of heart, or lack of evidence for my point of view, but because of group loyalty, certain blindness, personal conviction, her newly found “conservatism”, or, to be fair, a genuine conviction in her point of view which just manages to align with the right wing Israeli viewpoint.
All I can do is represent, in this comment section, the silent majority that does not agree with the bloodthirsty indifference with which I see her argue against the anti-war position of the college protesters. YOU or her will always have a different point of view from me, but the silent readers who share my views will be content in the realisation that not everyone is going in the same direction.
There’s some beautiful satisfaction in that, at least. And who knows, maybe one mind is changed. And maybe not. Speech can, in many cases, be its own reward.
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And when I’m depressed, I read Ilan Pappé:
https://x.com/NewLeftReview/status/1804137130811121966?s=19
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Here’s the full thing. He is more articulate than I’ve been on these pages: https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-collapse-of-zionism
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I too, have an overarching goal: I would like all people to find salvation in Jesus Christ, in the bosom of Holy Orthodoxy. You, Clarissa, all Clarissa’s readers, and everybody who reads every other combox I post in. It would be literally the best thing that could possibly happen to them. God loves you, nothing you have done is beyond forgiveness, the only true peace lies in voluntary union with the will and energies of God, and the path there lies through self-abnegation and ascesis.
I believe that. It’s the most important thing to me ever.
Should I then use other people’s platforms to condemn heresy, issue calls for repentance, and share the Gospel with all the silent majority of readers, hungry for the Word of God and the message of salvation? Surely the importance of redemption justifies any discourtesy on my part! Nothing could be more important!
The problem, of course, is that this isn’t my blog, and whether the silent majority are begging for the Good News or not, so far I have a lousy track record of helping people on the road to conversion, where I do not first establish a personal relationship of trust, mutual respect, and love. I shudder to think of what damage I might do to that righteous and good cause, if in my zeal to win converts, I acted inconsiderate, pushy, and self-righteous, and executed a hostile takeover of someone else’s combox. I have no reason to think that, even on this most crucial of matters– the disposition of their immortal souls!– any of Clarissa’s readers want to hear from me, more than they want to hear from her. If I did think so, I’d write my own blog and invite everyone over.
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And yet, comment sections exist for disagreements and debate. The last I checked, Clarissa is an academic.She could return the comment to a moderated form, as she did last week, where all my comments were filtered and not approved. No one died.Her blog, her right.If she returns there, I’ll be sad but life will go on. But it will also illustrate why/how societies become authoritarian. Starts with stifling debate and platforming only applause, when critical engagement might help. But you get your complicit silence and we can all return to ha-ha-ing thousands of innocent deaths, and mocking contentious campus protesters and war dissenters.
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Societies become authoritarian as a result of economic and cultural breakdown. “A law in every heart, or a policeman on every corner”– we live in a society with shared culture, ethics, and assumptions, and a tacit agreement to abide by the same rules… or we have rules enforced on us against our wills. Self-control, or external control. This is one of the more basic things I talk to my kids about: if you fail to control your own behavior, and your own feelings, you will be controlled by others, perhaps by necessity, or perhaps because you left open the opportunity. The alternative is chaos.
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“All I can do is represent, in this comment section, the silent majority that does not agree…”
That seems quite a tall order, don’t you think?
“the silent readers who share my views“
Again, there might well be some, but I would think that, if they are in any way sane, after seeing that their views are not shared by the blog’s owner as well as many if not most of her readers, they would simply stop coming to the blog and decamp to more congenial pastures. If they do not, they must either be masochists or trouble-makers, or both.
“There’s some beautiful satisfaction in that, at least. And who knows, maybe one mind is changed. And maybe not. Speech can, in many cases, be its own reward.“
That’s your narcissism speaking. Virtue is its own reward, not speech. And the fact that you don’t, or can’t see that is what is wrong with you and your deliberately provocative comments.
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Well, we disagree. And that’s also a good thing. And, so far, still allowed in this country.
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And yet, comment sections exist for disagreements and debate. The last I checked, Clarissa is an academic.
She could return the comment to a moderated form, as she did last week, where all my comments were filtered and not approved. No one died.
Her blog, her right.
If she returns there, I’ll be sad but life will go on. But it will also illustrate why/how societies become authoritarian. Starts with stifling debate and platforming only applause, when critical engagement might help. But you get your silence and we can all return to ha-ha-ing thousands of innocent deaths, and mocking contentious campus protesters and war dissenters.
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I am sorry that you have not discovered the joy of friendly mutual conversation in text form. I hope that it’s at least something you can enjoy IRL, even if the whole of the internet seems a wasteland of verbal warfare. That is very sad.
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\ Clearly, nobody takes the idea that there’s a genocide in Palestine seriously, or they wouldn’t make such a mockery of it.
I hope they don’t believe in a literal genocide, yet cannot agree with your conclusion. 🙂
This candy store just made me feel bad about our position in EU. 😦
That’s why most Israeli Jews don’t have any warm feelings about Europe.
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It’s not just the candy store. It’s every other store. Every third building. Endless graffiti. Endless posters on walls, defacing the entire city.
Having to see this unfortunate behavior is interfering with my enjoyment of my vacation.
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Does this city have a large Muslim population? Immigrant population?
Are other Spanish cities like this too? If not, why?
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It’s not Muslims. It’s leftists. San Sebastián is historically very left wing. Next to the Palestinian flags, there are images of hammer and sickle and slogans calling to socialism.
It’s almost as bad in Madrid. Not quite as bad but almost. Leftism is the same everywhere.
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I want to apologize for saying in the past that there was no anti-semitism in Europe. I was wrong. There’s a lot of it, and it’s growing. Or coming out into the open, rather.
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Is being anti-war/genocide the same as being anti-Semitic? If not, then why do you conflate them?
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Saw yesterday:
\ Завтра 22 июня годовщина нападения гитлеровской Германии на сталинский СССР – событие, резко изменившее ход Второй мировой. И еще 22 июня день смерти Никколо Макиавелли 1527 год скоро будет 500 лет. Макиавелли – первый политический философ Нового времени.
Позволю себе привести несколько фраз, практически не утративших актуальности за половину тысячелетия
https://trim-c.livejournal.com/5400226.html?view=comments#comments
The first and the last quotes stood out.
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“It’s the complicity that we’re protesting”
Soo… no military aid to Israel.
No humanitarian aid to Palestine.
I’m…. okay with that.
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Good. And no complaint if any one gets attacked.
Let them work it out. If Netanyahu doesn’t have daddy to run to when he gets attacked, he won’t keep annexing other people’s lands, and he’d actually negotiate for peace.
Let the UN handle humanitarian aids to all that need it, either in Israel, Palestine, or Uganda.
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“he’d actually negotiate for peace.”
And secular democracy (and a pony!) for all!
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I mean, we’ve agreed that what YOU want is a perpetual state of war. So this scoffing isn’t surprising.
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“Palestinians” are basically Arabs whom no other Arab countries want. There has never been a “Palestinian” country or state, it’s a name given to a region. A lot of them come from Egypt or Jordan. Israel gave the world many scientists, writers and philosophers, Palestinians are guys who ogle women and spit on pavements.
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This is like saying “Isrealis” are Eastern Europeans. No point arguing with someone that thinks a person born in Brooklyn has more right to a land than someone born in Jerusalem.
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I am sure if the war with Lebanon starts, that’ll be the day Western media starts ‘noticing’ the suffering of Lebanese people, while ignoring what came before.
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“what YOU want is a perpetual state of war”
No. That’s your interpretation from not reading carefully.
I don’t really care what happens to the Palestinians. Israel has been beyond patient with them and if they drove them all out of the west bank and gaza tomorrow I wouldn’t shed a tear.
The only reason they won’t/can’t do that is that Palestinians have burned all their bridges with Arab countries and no Arab country wants them anymore. They (and Iran are the ones that want eternal conflict, crying crocodile tears over them while keeping them at arms length).
I’m pretty much in favor of removing military and humanitarian aid from the area and letting the marketplace of army discipline work its magic.
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Again, we’ve agreed that this is what you want. What isn’t clear is whether you’ll be back here to cry “antisemitism” when the next October 7 happens because Israel continues to kill people indiscriminately. Someone who is fine with the marketplace of violence taking care of things won’t spend all their lives yelling about Hezbollah or Iran and Khamas whenever the violence comes to roost near them.
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“what you want.”
What I want is for Palestinians to stop being suicidal maniacs and to mature a few centuries and negotiate a peace they can live with (alongside Israel).
If they don’t want to or can’t then…. I stopped worrying about them years ago.
“the next October 7”
Is that what you want? If so, what kind of excuses would you make for them?
“marketplace of violence”
I phrased that poorly, I mean the ‘marketplace of state discpline’. Israel has it, Palestinians don’t (nor are they ever going to acquire it as long as they dream of killing/expelling all Jews from the Middle East.
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I heard you clearly. You want violence to continue. You’ve made that clear (though you somehow assume that the violence will only continue to happen from Israel, because they have “state discipline”, whatever that means, after killing 30k people), and my point is that rooting for violence doesn’t end it. No need to keep going in circles.
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““state discipline”, whatever that means, after killing 30k people”
“State discipline” means 30k and not 3 million were killed. Do you think the Palestinians would or could show any restraint if the situation was reversed?
It’s the US support for Israel that gets up your jumper so much also keeps Israel forceful response at least somewhat restrained.
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Lol!
You see the benefit of these conversations? It helps unearth many of these genocidal fantasies you have, peeling off the veneer of “Palestinians are the troublemakers” that we’ve been working with since. Good!
Before Eastern Europeans mass emigrated to Palestine, Jews and Arabs lived together. You resolve that in your genocidal brain why it was other Europeans, not Arabs, that killed 6 million Jews.
And then we can talk.
I’ve stated a billion times here that what most Palestinans (Christians, muslims, arabs) want is to live in peace in the land of their ancestors, and to return to their villages, most of them. Jews are not their problem. These genocidal zionists are.
But you know that having that conversation will expose you as being in support of that land grab. The moment you actually address the fact that Arabs saved Jews during some of the early anti-zionist riots, you’ll have to confront the truth of the cause of the ongoing conflict. And where would that leave you? In support of a liberal multinational democracy. And who wants that? Not Netanyahu, not Hamas, and certainly not you.
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\ What I want is for Palestinians to stop being suicidal maniacs and to mature a few centuries … the ‘marketplace of state discpline’
As long as Iran’s stated goal, when they use diplomatic language, is to erase Israel from the map, as long as the entire Middle East is one step away from becoming Iran / Gaza/ Syria, how would Palestinians be any different?
Just today I talked with someone Israeli about our peace with Egypt. He said we returned land to sign a peace agreement, yet Egypt is in danger of being ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood instead of the current military-ruled state, and the moment MB comes to power – we’ll have a huge war with Egypt again. 😦
\ It’s the US support for Israel that gets up your jumper so much also keeps Israel forceful response at least somewhat restrained.
Agree 100%.
\ to live in peace in the land of their ancestors, and to return to their villages
Both the condition and the result of such return would be the elimination of Israel (wanted to add “as a Jewish and democratic state”, but no, a complete elimination).
And, if you’re honest, you’ll admit the result would’ve been the complete elimination of the Jewish people from the land of our ancestors in the Middle East.
How many states and peoples would you expect to agree to commit national suicide?
Before Israel is destroyed (which I hope won’t ever happen), there would be a horrible war with possible use of nuclear weapons. Is that what you want?
I am for finding a way to live with Palestinians by dividing the land, yet don’t see anyone on the other side to talk with. 😦 And, yes, I know there are extremists among us too. And the longer Palestinians show only violence, the more mainstream anti-Palestinian position becomes. The sad remains of the Left are destroyed…
\ where would that leave you? In support of a liberal multinational democracy.
Have you read «Democracy Report 2024» by V-Dem that I linked to here and even summarized the findings?
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‘don’t see anyone on the other side to talk with”
Yes. Israelis have a state (along with Israeli Arabs many of whom don’t want to live under Palestinian rule).
Palestinians have carefully nurtured grievances and no viable organization.
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“I’ve stated a billion times here that what most Palestinans (Christians, muslims, arabs) want is to live in peace”
Who died and appointed you spokesperson for ‘most Palestinians’? Is it an entry level position before you force ‘secular democracy’ on them?
On what basis are you making these odd claims?
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To El,
No, it’s not true that there’s no one to negotiate with. The PLO was fine with the 1967 borders. Netanyahu and his ilk torpedoed the Oslo accords. Abass’s current Palestinian Authority is fine with a two state solution. What do you reward him with? More annexation of his land. If you will stop lying, we can actually have a reasonable discussion. Yes I agree that there’s no partner for peace on the other side, but that other side is Israel. Find a moderate leader who can implement Oslo and the problem is over. At least that hasn’t been tried, because Likud keeps giving money to Hamas as a way of undermining peace.
The day we marginalize both Hamas and Netanyahu’s maniacal leadership, that’s when peace return to grasp. But I get a sense that you don’t want that either. War is more fun, especially with America as an endless spigot of cash and biased defence.
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I think after the wave of immigration from France, Israel will see American Jews arriving too. May be, not right now, but in the near decades.
The Jerusalem Post reports:
“Pro-Palestinian protestors beat Jews outside of LA synagogue – The video, posted on the X account of Kan News, showed pro-Palestinian protestors wearing keffiyehs and carrying Palestinian flags as they hit and attacked visibly observant Jews.”
Other media talk of clashes:
“Violent clashes broke out between pro-Palestinian protesters and supporters of Israel in the Pico-Robertson area of Los Angeles, and the local police used riot control and tear gas. The riots began when pro-Palestinian protesters gathered outside the Abas Torah Synagogue, and began confronting protesters waving Israeli flags. According to reports in the U.S., a verbal confrontation developed into a physical confrontation in a short time.”
Multiple arrests were made.
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