
I didn’t respond for a few days because, while I really like and agree with Kisin, it bores me to think about ideas with which I already agree.
Finally, however, I found a quote from Kisin with which I disagree. It’s an excerpt from a longer piece where he’s talking about the so-called “Woke Right”, agreeing that the term is clumsy and providing the following description:
The fringe of the Right which replicates every key aspect of wokeness:
– thinking the West is bad and siding with its enemies
– playing identity politics on the basis that their group is oppressed by a secret invisible force controlled by another group/groups
– having an obsession with group-based victimhood and grievance
– seeking to revise and pervert history to fit its ideological narrative
– reacting to disagreement with name-calling, ostracism and bullying
– creating a culture of fear among more centre-leaning people on their side to prevent criticism (you should see how many people message me privately to say they agree about the Woke Right but don’t want to say anything).https://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1865824554737676465?t=CkrY8uGUG2plcNQkUVc_Lg&s=19
Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, Candace Owens – Kisin means that kind of “the Right.” What these people invariably have in common is that they used to be on the Left and have now brought the foundational beliefs and intellectual habits of the Berkeley Left to the Right.
That’s why I don’t call them “Woke Right.” I call them “the Left.” Because that’s what they are, whether they are intellectually sophisticated enough to know it.
I don’t believe in self-ID in any sphere of life.
Kisin gives a long definition of such people but I find all of the points on his list superfluous except for the first one. The main, central, number one characteristic of the Left at every point in history is it’s hatred of the Western civilization and efforts to champion whoever the enemy of the West is at any given time.
Bullying, schmullying, culture of fear – that’s all vapor. The real problem with Tucker and Candace is that they despise the West and shit on its greatest achievements. Everything else stems from that underlying, visceral contempt for the Western civilization. People who don’t notice the shocking similarities between Tulsi and the campus “Queers for Palestine” groups simply haven’t been around such groups enough. I live surrounded by them, so I notice.
So yes, Kisin is great. And Candace is a leftist who is probably too dumb to know it about herself.
I’m not sure I agree with your presentation here. Firstly, Kisin definitely doesn’t consider himself right-wing and has said on multiple occasions that he came from the left. James Lindsay, who is with him on the “woke right” idea, is also someone of the right. Carlson was a neo-con, which does have it origins in universalist ideas, but I also think he loves the United States but hates its government. Gabbard was definitely left, but, given she is still serving in the military, it seems hard to describe her as someone who hates the West. Owens is the one I know least, mostly because I made a point of not following her after her Social Autopsy project 10 years ago which was a terrible left-wing idea.
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Have you heard about General Milley and his calls to China?
He’s in the military, if that’s not widely known.
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Typo: Lindsay is “someone of the left”, not right.
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hi Clarissa here’s my latest bit of Torah scholarship:
The k’vanna of the entire first Book of the Written Torah
Making a shallow reactionary reading – fails to discern the forest through all the trees! A tits on a boar hog טיפש פשט – utterly pathetic Christians read their Bibles; People of the Book Koran curse against the Jews – shallow paper thin reactionary rhetoric propaganda narishkeit.
What’s the Prime theme of the Book of בראשית? Turn to the common denominator expressed in all Yom Tov tefillot!
Learn: ‘אתה בחרתנו מכל העמים, אהבת אותנו ורצית בנו, ורוממתנו וכו.
The Book of בראשית – תמיד מעשה בראשית, tohor time oriented Av commandments which create from nothing continuously in all generations “the chosen Cohen nation” from the midsts of the Goyim. Which continuously separates Av tohor time oriented commandments from toldot positive & negative commandments and Talmudic halachot which do not require k’vanna; רשות דולדות מצוות שלא צריך כוונה like תפילה ערבית, unto Av tohor time oriented mitzvot, which do require prophetic mussar T’NaCH k’vaana.
The Judgment Day of the Brit–faith ie pursuit of judicial justice inside the oath sworn lands: Blessing or Curse/Life or Death. Does the Chosen Cohen תמיד מעשה בראשית nation pursue faith לשמה or לא לשמה. Clearly if we pursue the oath brit faith ie righteous pursuit of justice whereby judicial Sanhedrin courts impose fair compensation of damages inflicted by party A upon party B; unlike and contrasted by the brothers casting Yosef into a well and selling him as a slave to Egypt.
No justice, observance of the Torah לא לשמה, applicable to both Yosef and his brothers. Yosef failed to give מחילה to his brothers and bless them with the Chosen first born Cohen people “blessing”, like as did both Yaacov and Moshe\ברכת כהנים/ Rabbeinu… the Torah curse of g’lut… Arose a new Par’o who did not know Yosef!
When Rabban Gamliel enquired from rabbi Yehoshua whether תפילת ערבית, a רשות או חיוב? And rabbi Yehoshua responded with חיוב, did he lie to Rabban Gamliel? A famous Talmudic confrontation. Rabban Gamliel’s lack of דרך ארץ caused him to cease ruling as the Nasi of the Great Sanhedrin!
The k’vanna רשות of תפילת ערבית, a person says this tefillah at פלג המנחה. מארמית: תרגום חופשי לעברית: מחצית המנחה. Its still daylight. A person can place his Rabbeinu Tam tefillen to swear the oath קריא שמע with tefillen! The k’vanna of רשות, that qualifies as both חיוב ורשות at the exact same moment, as taught by Rabbi Yehoshua, a person can choose to attach this קריא שמע ערבית שהוא אמר בפלג המנחה to his tefillah of Minchah, which has no קריא שמע as revealed in the Siddur. (Tefillah קריא שמע דאורייתא while tefillah Shemone Esrei tefillah דרבנן, a huge מאי נפקא מינא middah which defines the k’vanna of רב חסד as does likewise תמיד מעשה בראשית.)
The k’vanna רשות of תפילת ערבית, the Torah scholar has k’vanna to attach his tefillah דרבנן ערבית to his קריא שמע המטה. The Shemone Esrei, so to speak, functions as a pronoun to the Noun קריא שמע; like as do the “pronouns” אל רחום וחנון וכו attached to the Nouns השם השם – the revelation of the 13 middot tohor spirits at Horev – 40 days after the sin of translating the Divine Name Spirt to the word אלהים\JeZeus or Allah. (Rabbi Akiva’s kabbalah of פרדס, the defining Oral Torah logic system which defines how the Talmud studies the T’NaCH as Common Law of Oral Torah scholarship.) Clearly by the time a person says קריא שמע המטה three stars have become clearly and easily visible in the heavens. Herein Rashi’s explanation of the opening Av Mishna of Mesechta ברכות.
The Yerushalmi Talmud teaches that over 247 prophets occupied themselves writing the Shemone Esrei tefillah דרבנן. Attaching a “pronoun” דרבנן to a “noun” דאורייתא, this משל defines the wisdom and power of tohor time oriented commandments. The classic example of דאורייתא tohor time oriented commandments, and their power to elevate commandments דרבנן to מצוות דאורייתא,, the blessing after the meal ברכת המזון. The first three blessings duplicate the ה’ אלהינו ה’ אחד of the קריא שמע… or אלהי אברהם אלהי יצחק ואלהי יעקב first blessing in the Shemone Esrei. The forth דרבנן blessing joins by means of סמוכים to the 3 blessings דאורייתא and it too becomes a blessing דאורייתא!
The B’HaG opens אלו מצות קום עשה: קרית שמע, ותפילין וכו’ – חלה, עורות קדשים — יש גם רבנים שחולקים וטוענים שהחיוב לתת עורות הקרבנות הוא מדרבנן, מאה ברכות בכל יום, קידוש השם!
This mitzva defines the k’vanna of the 1st commandment of Sinai, the greatest of all Torah commandments. מדרבנן (תקנת חכמים): יש גם רבנים שחולקים וטוענים שהחיוב לקדש ולגדל את שם ה’ הוא מדרבנן. הרמב”ן, לדוגמה, חולק וטוען שהקידוש הוא תקנת חכמים, ומסביר שהתכנית היא למנוע מהבעל להוציא את אשתו ללא כבובה. ויראת השם – פירוש בעל שם טוב! A man strives his entire life to build the reputation of his good name. לעבד לשם — פירוש: לעשות טהור זמן גרמא מצוות עם כוונה. להשבע בשם — פירוש: לומר ברכות עם מוסר כוונה מן התנא”ך. נר שבת, נר חנוכה וכו’ ומקרא מגילה etc.
The shared common denominator of all these mitzvot – all tohor time oriented Av Torah commandments! Av tohor time oriented commandments have the holiness to raise positive and negative commandments to tohor time oriented commandments, the mitzva of Shabbat clearly proves this, but the holiness of Av tohor time oriented commandments תמיד מעשה בראשית like the Ger Tzeddik lives as a new Creation so too rabbinic mitzvot and halachot become commandments from the Written Torah through the holiness of the Oral Torah revelation at Horev from which we learn Av tohor time oriented commandments as the מלך which all ברכות oaths require. Herein separates tefillot as a tohor time oriented Av commandment from saying תולדות קום ועושה ושב ולא תעשה tehillim prayers. The latter neither qualifies as a sworn Torah oath nor as an Av time oriented Commandment, which תמיד מעשה בראשית creates the chosen Cohen people יש מאין.
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OT: But a plea to the readership:
Anybody have any good news sources on Syria right now?
Our patriarchate is based in Damascus and I have not seen any news whatsoever from them since the city fell.
There’s lots of MSM rah rah coverage on Damascus… is anybody listing what other towns/territories have been taken?
The last time this happened, they disappeared one of our bishops and took our monasteries in Maaloula hostage.
Trying to figure out what’s going on with our people there, but I don’t read Arabig
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*Arabic
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“any good news sources on Syria right now?”
Unfortunately, not that I know of. I share your concern for the fate of orthodox (and other religious minority) believers in the area and if you find something please share the details here.
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Will do. Looking everywhere, but it’s a huge blank so far.
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Even our archdiocese doesn’t seem to have put out anything public yet. I hope they are not also waiting on news.
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Kisin is a libtard and a moron. Not a single person he identifies as the “woke right” hates the west. “Woke right” for these people means anyone who’s not willing to fight his ethnic enemies for him.
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Frankly, I think both woke left and the woke right and …whatever Kisin is are narcissistic. Everyone is trying to prove that they are 100% right and others are 100% wrong and is incapable of seeing partial truths in other’s viewpoint.
For instance, I think there is a way to have a meaningful conversation about the responsibility of the West for WWII. Not from the perspective of who is guilty and has to be shamed, but from the perspective of what mistakes have been made, and what could be done differently. So we do not repeat the same mistakes again. Was it, for example, a right choice to throw Czechoslovakia under the bus in the name of peace and continuing with business as usual? Does anyone who is looking back at those events believe that there should have been even more appeasement of Hitler? That WWII could be avoided altogether by appeasing Hitler? if so – how and why?
Another problem is that in our culture we have demonized Hitler and Nazis to such an extent that we do not see them as human. In our minds they are something out of this world, something so unique that we are ignoring parallels with the present. So we see that a lot of modern-day Russians are average normal human beings and refuse to believe that Russia poses the same kind of danger as Nazi Germany did… Well, if the Germans were not human, perhaps they would not be so vulnerable to their narcissistic injury and we would not have WWII for that reason…
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Did you hear Tucker praise Moscow and compare it favorably with US cities? Did you hear Candace Owens say that the US and the UK are guilty in WWII? And Tucker supporting the same idea?
Tulsi, OK, she’s just an airhead. But Tucker is not stupid. He’s denigrating the US to entertain the people who despise us. But it’s a reflex with the leftists. “America – bad.” They can’t help it.
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““Woke right” for these people means”
Several days ago there was an excellent summary of Lindsay’s real position (rather than the burlesque strawman arguments people are wheeling out) which very inconveniently I can’t find now.
Roughly, “woke right” is a subset of right-identifying people who use the same gnostic praxis (and often the same texts) to make sense of the modern world (which they perceive in terms of the Marxist frame of oppressor/oppressed).
They just flip a few parameters/labels along the way so that they have ‘Jews’ or ‘communism’ where the left has ‘white supremacy’ or ‘patriarchy’. When applied consistently they come to similarly absurd conclusions.
The woke left ignores deaths or tries to explain away deaths caused by communist leaders, from the holodomor to the Khmer rouge.
The woke right is led to think that, if you look at WWII with fresh eyes, maybe Hitler wasn’t so bad cause, you know, he killed commies and jews.
Where the woke left sees white patriarchal oppression everywhere as a omnipresent malaise that must constantly be fought the woke right sees jewish communist oppression everywhere.
Tucker Carlson is not a thinker. He’s an alogrithm-based entrepreneur (Vlad Vexler’s description but I like it and so I’m keeping it).
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There’s a widespread idea in Russia that the war between Russia and Ukraine was engineered by Jews to cleanse the region of Slavs (which Russians aren’t buy whatever) and populate it by Jews. The number of people who believe it is quite extraordinary.
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If I agree with Putin that water is wet, does that make me a leftist? Nitpicking what Tucker may have said about something, ignoring his entire body of work is just arguing in bad faith.
“Tucker is a leftist” is not a serious opinion. Kisin is just mad that not enough americans are dying for Israel and Ukraine. Identity politics for me but not for thee. I spit on him.
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Nobody wants Americans to die for Ukraine. And they aren’t unless we are talking about volunteers and that’s up to them.
The idea that Moscow is better than NYC or Chicago isn’t “water is wet.” It’s a lie. An anti-Western libel identical to “Cuba has better healthcare than the US.” It’s standard leftist propaganda where words remake reality in a way that’s convenient.
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People should specify what “better” means. I totally believe it may be dirtier in the streets of NYC or Chicago than in Moscow. So what? Is this the main criterion for measuring the success or moral superiority of a country?
Conservatives have to stop projecting their dreams onto Russia. Despite this being just delusional, this has very practical political implications: conservatives are scaring sane people off by indicating that Russia is some sort of an ideal to them.
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Tucker’s main thing was that food in Russia is cheaper. 😆😆😆
He’s not a low-IQ person, so this must be a conscious manipulation.
I agree with what you say and I have to repeat, how is this remotely different from how lefties projected and still project their fantasies on Cuba?
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Just the other day I saw a series of gushy tweets from an American who got great healthcare as a tourist in Havana and is now convinced that the Cuban healthcare is vastly superior. It’s a random online person who might really be that stupid. But Tucker isn’t. Just like all the Western intellectuals who traveled to Stalinist USSR, knew the truth but chose not to publish it because that would hurt the idea of socialism.
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What I noticed among
A lot of European consevatives seem to like Putin and agree with him that he had to do what he has done because of the NATO presence in Europe. We both know what a manipulating, big, goofy lie this is.. it reminds me of the far left calling for “unilateral disermament” during the cold war: “better red than dead”. And now, we have right wing turkeys voting for Christmas,too.
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It’s exactly this. During the Cold Ear, the Left was into appeasing the USSR and singing its praises. Now Tucker and Co are doing exactly this regarding Russia. The same arguments, the same everything.
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