I know I promised a semi-open thread on Obama a while ago, so here it is, people.
The subject is the recent string of revelations about the kill list of terrorist suspects supposedly personally vetted by President Obama. Do you approve of the list? How did finding out about it make you feel about Obama? Did it make you more or less likely to vote for him in the elections?
And what about the revelations of the cyberwar Obama has been waging against Iran?
Feel free to share anything else that comes to mind about Obama.
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I am skeptical about this in so many ways. It is entirely possible that there are things being leaked to mislead some group or other. Disinformation is a popular technique with governments, and has been since the dawn of time. Just as England’s newspapers reported incorrect information about where German missiles were landing in London in the Second World War in order to cause the Germans to adjust their guidance system settings and result in bombs’ being directed elsewhere, there could easily be many layers of secrecy which have many different hidden underlying reasons. So, I believe that the public release of information is likely deliberately misleading. I see no reason to try to analyze it when the data are almost certainly censored in unpredictable ways. The leaked information may be false, and it is surely incomplete, at the very least.
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I find it ironic, though perhaps understandable ???, that while Obama has seemingly ended waterboarding and other such abuses, he has an evident need to “out-Republican” – his predecessor – continuing the deceptions and lies about our “enemies” such as Iran. We, unfortunately, as “the U.S.” are oft times (if not always) the “terrorist state” ourselves. On 9/11 – “we” were attacked. When we overthrow some governments, subsidize other oppressive governments, “tactically” “take out” “terrorists” and similar – such as blocking nearly unanimous UN actions when they aren’t in “our interests”, and then we wonder – why do others hate us – the “best” in the world …..
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Why do these people HAVE to be killed? And why does it always have to be before a Democratic trial? Again and again America acts as the judge, jury and executioner of the world.
It never quite works out though does it?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/supreme-court-guantanamo-bay-dc-circuit-boumediene_n_1567367.html
Obama did nothing to close Guantanamo prison and the military under his command committed many war crimes, called “accidents” for which “they are very sorry”.
His “kill list” is just another example that America treats other as sub-humans: violating air space of other countries, being judge, jury and executioner, often destroying bombing half of a village to get one man who MAY BE a terrorist…
If Russia or China did half of these things US would be screaming about violation of human rights etc.
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I’m on the fence about the cyber-war against Iran; on the one hand, it does seem an invasion of another’s nation’s sovereignty, but on the other, he seems to be offering it up to Netanyahu as a viable alternative to a *real* war against Iran; that being the case, it’s probably preferable to the likely alternative.
As for the kill list, I’m less forgiving. What really concerns me is not so much that Obama might abuse his power to extra-judiciously murder anyone he likes (not that that doesn’t concern me, mind you), but that any of his successors could go on to do so.
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USA declared that any cyber attack will be treated like declaration of war and they will respond even with nuclear weapons, so…
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Yes, well I never said they weren’t hypocritical
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This and more makes me more and more disappointed in Obama. I´m voting for him against Romney who I am sure would be yet worse, but still, I am disgusted.
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