I haven’t accessed my blogroll for a while (feedly is impossibly and aggravatingly slow) but maybe that was a good thing. After I saw an unsurprising woman-hating screed from Shakesville, I encountered a more surprising transformation of blogger Ozy Frantz. Frantz used to be a champion of gender equality who has now become a sad, boring and pathetic worshiper of pill-pushers and a cheer-leader for anti-choicers.
Ozy Frantz seems to be one of those people who write extremely well as part of a collective project but become dull and stupid as authors of personal blogs. It’s a weak individual identity, indeed, if it needs to be propped by group members on all sides to remain of any interest.
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What a fucktard!
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This was a good, interesting blogger who is now rapidly turning ultra-conservative.
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We have someone like that in Québec.
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There is someone like this everywhere. 😦 😦
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Hmm, I read that last post of Ozy’s as saying people aren’t pro-life because they hate women but because it’s the logical conclusion of their delusional belief that fetuses are people, As to Ozy’s reasons for not calling them names, I don’t know them but if I had to hazard a guess I’d estimate it’s because calling your opponent names does not change your opponent’s mind, even though it can be useful in pulling undecided people to your side, so it’s not the world’s most useful tactic in a debate where there aren’t many undecided folk.
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No, they don’t care about fetuses. It’s a lie.
https://clarissasblog.com/2011/02/26/the-hypocrisy-of-anti-abortionists/
I don’t know what else needs to happen to convince people of the painfully obvious: these creeps don’t care about fetuses. They don’t think fetuses are people. Their only ideology is that women are not people, that’s all.
“As to Ozy’s reasons for not calling them names, I don’t know them but if I had to hazard a guess I’d estimate it’s because calling your opponent names does not change your opponent’s mind”
– The idea that somebody can “change a woman hater’s mind” is completely bizarre. They don’t have minds. They just hav ehatred.
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If these freakazoids really think fetuses are people where is the massive lobbying to give child tax relief to people starting from the moment of conception? Why is nobody lobbying to make women entitled to claim paid leave to take care of our dependent fetuses under FMLA? Why is there no suggestion that families get welfare checks for these “people”?
Just think about it. If the freaks really thought these cell clusters were people, wouldn’t they do something for those “people”?
I cannot believe there are still folks naive enough to buy into the idea that the anti-choice insects care about fetuses or babies or anything but their hatred of women.
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“I don’t know what else needs to happen to convince people of the painfully obvious: these creeps don’t care about fetuses.”
And Ozy presumably doesn’t notice that because zie judges them by what they say instead of what they do. I wouldn’t call this exactly cheerleading.
“The idea that somebody can “change a woman hater’s mind” is completely bizarre. They don’t have minds. They just hav ehatred.”
Presumably they’re keeping that hatred in something. As for it being bizarre, these people are sharing a country with Ozy and voting on stuff that affects Ozy’s access to contraception, so presumably zie has an interest in trying to change their minds, as improbable as changing their minds might be.
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So accepting their position is a way to change their minds? Can anybody boast any success in this area?
Except me who has already changed the position of 4 actual people on this issue. And the way I did it was through aggressive and passionate name-calling. In my experience, this always has a much greater effect than the meek and sheepish, “You are right, of course, and please take no offence but. . .”
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“So accepting their position is a way to change their minds?”
Ozy states their position, rather than accepting it, because, as zie said in zir previous post, zie wants to understand how they think about themselves.
“Except me who has already changed the position of 4 actual people on this issue. And the way I did it was through aggressive and passionate name-calling.”
Hmm, interesting. I don’t have much experience in persuading Americans to be pro-choice (I’m not American, and the discussion about abortion is framed differently here) so I’ll add that to my data of what works and how. I’m possibly applying my own biases here since the moment someone starts calling me names is the moment I usually stop listening to whatever it is they’re trying to tell me, so that would be a particularily inefficient strategy to persuade me I’m wrong. But as I’ve said, I’m not American. Nor am I pro-life.
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Pro-life fucktards are woman-haters. The only feminist position about abortion is to be pro-abortion.
It’s pro-life fucktards who decide that there’s no rational debate to do here.
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Calling names is not for the undecided folks, it’s for the anti-choice woman-haters.
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I’m not American. This is why I’m not afraid of hurting the feelings of those whose politics I detest. They don’t fear hurting my feelings by giving me the legal status of a brainless incubator on feet. An insult like that deserves every insult in return.
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In fact, I want to hurt feeling of my fellow Québécois about politics and social issues.
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I think this often has very positive results. While we keep smiling at the woman-haters, pandering to them, accepting that they proceed from legitimate feelings, etc., they keep destroying our rights.
A much better approach is to unleash all the fury of our contempt on them. When it becomes as socially unacceptable to be a woman-hater or a homophobe as it is to be a public Nazi-supporter, we will win.
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Clarissa is right about certain types of people not thinking. I had a similar discussion with Mike yesterday, where he kept trailing off, “but they think….” and I would stop him and saying, “As I told you before, as hard as it is to grasp, they cannot think and do not think. Rather they have a rigid emotional stone at the center of their beings and they attach various ideological justifications to it as they come across these.
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