Growing Disappointment

~ Clarissa

This is very disappointing. I want to keep supporting Israel but it’s getting hard. It doesn’t seem like anything will be enough for Israel to stop going to war.

I’ve been extremely supportive but it’s getting so I’m starting to wonder if Russia is not the only culture of death on the planet.

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  1. You’re missing a lot of context in this situation:

    Израильские друзы заблокировали ключевые перекрестки на севере страны, протестуя против «бездействия Израиля» в то время, как, по данным СМИ, сирийский режим “убивает их братьев в Сирии”.

    Сотни друзов пересекли сегодня границу с Сирией на фоне продолжающихся столкновений между сирийским режимом и друзами и бедуинами на юге страны.

    Лидеры друзской общины в Израиле объявили всеобщую забастовку и дни гнева, а шейх Муфак Тариф сегодня утром призвал к массовому подъему на Голанские высоты.

    В заявлении от имени Тарифа говорится, что он обратился к премьер-министру Биньямину Нетаньяху и министру обороны Исраэлю Кацу с призывом нанести удар по сирийскому режиму. «Необходимо заставить режим отступить из Сувейды, это война за существование друзской общины», — заявил шейх и добавил, что Нетаньяху и Кац должны выбрать между «союзом с друзами или с ИГИЛ», пишет Haaretz.

    ЦАХАЛ решил усилить силы на сирийской границе из опасения обострения ситуации, и ближе к полудню армия заявила, что ВВС нанесли удар по входу в Генштаб режима Асада в Дамаске.

    По данным Сирийского центра мониторинга за соблюдением прав человека, в последние дни столкновения между друзами, бедуинами и силами безопасности сирийского режима в районе Сувейды унесли жизни более 250 человек.

    Очень серьезная эскалация на сирийском фронте.
    Израильских ВВС нанесли удары по стратегическим объектам в Дамаске, включая, по-видимому, вход в Генштаб сирийского режима и здания, связанные с его командным центром. По сообщениям сирийских источников, в результате ударов есть погибшие и раненые среди сил безопасности. Министр обороны Израиля Кац подчеркнул, что начался новый этап: «Предупреждения закончились – теперь будут болезненные удары».

    Параллельно на северной границе разворачивается драма: сотни израильских друзов из Мадждаль-Шамса пересекли или пытаются пересечь границу с Сирией, стремясь добраться до своих собратьев на юге страны, подвергающихся нападениям со стороны режима. Армия обороны Израиля применяет слезоточивый газ и предупредительную стрельбу, чтобы остановить попытки проникновения. Премьер-министр Нетаньяху обратился к друзам с призывом не пересекать границу: «Вы подвергаете свою жизнь опасности и мешаете действиям ЦАХАЛа».

    Эскалация происходит на фоне резни в провинции Ас-Сувейда на юге Сирии, где, по сообщениям, уже убито не менее 248 мирных жителей, включая женщин и детей. В резне участвуют силы президента страны Джулани. Друзская община в Израиле объявила всеобщую забастовку и дни гнева. Лидер друзов Муаффак Тариф предупредил: если Израиль не нанесёт решительный авиаудар по силам режима, совершающим убийства, кризис в отношениях между друзами и государством Израиль углубится. Министр иностранных дел Гидеон Саар осудил действия режима Джулани и призвал международное сообщество вмешаться. В то же время, ЦАХАЛ продолжает удары по военным целям на юге Сирии.

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      1. It is not the same at all…

        I know that I do not know everything about the situation in Syria, to say the least, yet know the comparison with Donbass is wrong.

        For instance, the current ruler was not chosen in a democratic fashion, doesn’t control the entire Syria and there are real massacres both in the past and at present.

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        1. “comparison with Donbass is wrong.

          For instance, the current ruler was not chosen in a democratic fashion”

          Are you suggested Donbas chose to be invaded by russia and that there have been no massacres there?

          Netanyahu, like putin, can’t survive without war. That’s why he’s been useless for Ukraine and spitting in the US’s face now….

          Why can’t Israelis choose a leader who’s not a war maniac?

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          1. \ Are you suggested Donbas chose to be invaded by russia and that there have been no massacres there?

            No, Clarissa mentioned Putin’s excuse for invasion of Donbas having being bombed for 8 years.

            So I replied that, unlike Donbas residents, Druze (and other minorities) are being massacred in Syria.

            The following quotes are from telegram channel of “War and Peace in the Middle East by Dr. Dina Lisnyansky &Co.” (Here is info regarding her numerous qualifications: https://ict.org.il/ourteam/dr-dina-lisnyansky/ )

            During the attempt to seize Suwayda, pro-government forces carried out a massacre at the city’s National Hospital, killing staff and patients right in their rooms.

            …

            According to reports from Druze in Suwayda, they are being attacked by Sunni armed militias loyal to Jolani, whom the Druze refer to as ISIS fighters. Many Druze men are being humiliated, with their mustaches forcibly shaved off.

            There are also reports that Sunni fighters are raping Druze girls and women, looting and burning Druze homes and shops, and destroying Druze symbols.

            …

            According to Axios:

            Israel told the Trump administration that what’s happening in Suwayda resembles the events of October 7.

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            You won’t believe it – UN Secretary-General António Guterres condemned Israel for violating Syrian sovereignty, as well as “any violence against civilians, especially actions that could inflame sectarian tensions.”

            All that’s missing is a condemnation of the Druze for resisting their own massacre – just as the satirical account Associated Fress suggests.

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            Islamists in the city of Hama, Syria, are calling for Jihad against the “kafirs.”

            \ Why does it even matter if the leader was democratically elected? What is sacred about elections? Serious question. 

            Because it explains why the current Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa controls only parts of supposedly his own country. It’s even worse: the jihadists that brought him to power may not agree with the current attempts of moderation towards non-jihadist Syrians, so his own base may not be under his control.

            Syria is also flooded with former ISIS members and other jihadists from around the world. Saw a video of Israeli Druze taking into captivity a Russian-speaking terrorist:

            https://t.me/romanaboutmeast/6686

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        2. Why does it even matter if the leader was democratically elected? What is sacred about elections? Serious question. I mean, we invaded Iraq on that justification and we all know how that turned out. Hussein was a bad dude, but also the only thing keeping the “democratic” majority Sunni population from slaughtering everybody else. Same deal with Assad and Syria. There’s nothing holy about democracy.

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          1. This will likely get some flack, but who cares.

            Basically it boils down to power and ruler-ship. Different types of governments work for different cultures and peoples. Despite what the globalists like to think Ethnic Germans are not the same as Ethnic Turks, which aren’t the same as Ethnic Vietnamese, which are not the same as Ethnic Zulu.

            Just as every people and culture is different, so too do different races work better or worse with different governments. Take the Germans and Americas for instance. (Please note from this point forward when I mention a race or a people, I am speaking about direct descendants not first, second, or even third gen transplants)

            So Take Germans and Americas, Germans function quite well under strict authoritarian leadership. It doesn’t matter if its a Republic, a communist state, or a Nationalist State, they will vote or elect strict authoritarian leadership every single time. Even the German leaders today are authoritarians in all but name.

            The Americans came from England primarily, more to the point the Americas were the English who did not want to play by the rules, who wanted to be independent, and did not want a king. The globalists have had to work extremely hard to try to break this in America, and even today after decades upon decades of trying to crush this spirit of Independence, it is still there.

            Take any of the middle east nations. Jew or Muslim it doesn’t matter, they are stubborn to the point of death. Ask any Jew or Muslim they will agree that their people are stubborn beyond anything. This is why in Muslim nations their leadership tends to be Tribal monarchy or authoritarian. They require a strong fist to keep them peaceful. The Jews are similar in that regard, but in their case their leaders keep things peaceful by maintaining a state of hostility “an us against the world.” Take it away and they would very likely have similar issues and require similar government types. I should note, they are similar, because they are quite literally brothers, as in both lines came from the same father.

            The Asians nations generally have a more this is the way it was done by our fathers, so its good enough for us approach. Even under Republics like S. Korea and Japan, it still rings true. If you deviate too far from tradition you will loose support.

            So going back to the globalists, they really like Republics or rather a very weakened form of a Republic. The reason being is that there is no accountability. Leaders come and go but are never held accountable, thus you can do ruinous things to a nation and either sacrifice a single person, or simple pay them (former leaders) to leave afterwords. Likewise with low accountability it is extremely easy to siphon funds from said countries.

            What I am getting at is that “Elections and Democracy” are not sacred, nor are they the best type of government, however they are the best for parasites and thieves. The west has been infected with this and under their influence will continue to try to spread “elections and democracy” to the rest of the world. You might note that every place that it is put in place typically gets worse and worse. Because again globalists are parasites and they take power and riches from the nations that get infected by them.

            • – W

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            1. The thing is a Republic works ok in very specific conditions. If any of them are breached it starts to fall apart.

              It requires a homogeneous society, it requires a high trust society, it requires laws to be both fair and enforced, it also requires leaders who are there for the good of their people rather than their own greed.

              It can work at a local level, it can even work at a national level. However it requires certain things to function properly. Without one of them it struggles, and the more that are removed the weaker and more corrupt it becomes.

              An Authoritarian, Monarch, or Fascist style of government is generally required to repair the damage once it has gone too far.

              We have arrived at the stage where we can no longer vote our way out as Europe has no doubt understood when every government and leader they tried to vote in to solve the issues have been disbarred, jailed, or stonewalled by the corrupt bureaucrats and globalists.

              Thus in the next few years you can expect to see a rise of calls for Authoritarianism, Monarchs, or Fascist leaders and parties to solve the issues we are having. As it is becoming more and more apparent the ballot box no longer works, the jury box no longer exists, which will leave the cartridge box to restore the Western nations. And if there is one thing you cannot trust Republics with, it is war or conflict.

              Hell even the founding fathers understood this. I seem to recall a quote about the Tree of Liberty requiring mind you the blood of Tyrants and Patriots.

              • – W

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  3. Here’s my problem with zionists. I’m actually persuadable on their goals. What’s so wrong about having a place for your people? What bothers me is that they are so opposed to this idea for everyone else in the west. “Open borders for thee but not for me.” And they’re not self-aware enough to realize how ridiculous they sound. ADL is fucking devoted to making sure white people in america and europe never have an conception of their identity. At any point they’re fighting multiple lawsuits against communities in america who just want to live around their own people, away from the “vibrancy” that diversiteeee tends to bring about. Why?

    So, for the sake of jewish nationalism I am expected to support bombing babies and straight up ethnic cleansing, but to deport a single el salvadorean rapist I need to go all the way to the supreme court. And repeat this process this for 40 million other illegals. This is bullshit.

    Js: “hey right-wingers you should support Jewish nationalism! We have institutional support!”

    Gs: “ok maybe. Are we also going to be able to use this ‘institutional support’ to pursue Christian Nationalism as well?”

    Js: “oh no! Of course not. That’s theocracy! Modern societies can’t have a religious identity!”

    Gs: “ok so then maybe we can have a nationalism based on our genetic/ethnic heritage?”

    Js: “oh no! That’s scary racist white ethno-nationalism. You can’t do that or you will be like the Nazis!”

    Gs: “so then can Gentiles have ANY nationalism?”

    Js: “well, purely HYPOTHETICALLY you could have a nationalism based on a super specific set of historic experiences that only Js have. It’s a tough job, but you scrubs got to put in the work!”

    Gs: “ok but until that hypothetical point in the future this ‘institutional support’ will only go towards Jewish Nationalism. Republicans did this for decades and it didn’t help them. How is this supposed to help Gentile Christian peoples?”

    Js: “that’s the best part. It isn’t!”

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    1. \ Here’s my problem with zionists. I’m actually persuadable on their goals. What’s so wrong about having a place for your people? What bothers me is that they are so opposed to this idea for everyone else in the west. … ADL is …

      Zionists are first and foremost Israeli Jews, the ones who built Israel and continue fighting and dying to protect my country and all of us. Obviously, we are not ADL and btw (almost?) all Israeli Jews think the West self-destructs and becomes unlivable for the Jewish people because of huge Muslim immigration. Never heard a different opinion while talking with “RL” people. We also don’t usually follow US inner policies that closely to know what ‘el salvadorean rapist’ refers to.

      If you have a problem with ADL policies, it’s fine. What I dislike is using the word ‘zionist’ in the same fashion / feeling as using N-word to refer to African-Americans, and using it to refer to all Jews regardless of huge differences between f.e. Israeli Jews and American organizations.

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      1. I couldn’t have been more clearer that I was talking in an american context, which is the only context that’s relevant here because without american support your tinpot little country would cease to exist in its present form.

        What I dislike is using the word ‘zionist’ in the same fashion / feeling as using N-word to refer to African-Americans,

        LOL this is a new one for me.

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        1. IKR?

          Offended by the crap ONE group of people consistently promotes, use the correct word for those people when speaking disapprovingly of them and…

          Oh, now you’re racist.

          (eyeroll)

          I friggin’ hate that about Zionists in the US. They’ve been pulling that schtick for decades to keep anybody from saying anything negative about Israel.

          Fortunately, the “racist” slur has worn out its welcome, and I really don’t think anybody is very intimidated by it anymore.

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          1. They’ve been pulling that schtick for decades to keep anybody from saying anything negative about Israel.

            To me that pales in comparison to the fact that they want you to support the kind of nationalism that they will never support for you. And go to great lengths to deny you (by calling it racist, fascist, etc.).

            I’m glad it’s becoming OK to state this, which also coincides with israel becoming unpopular in america for the first time in the last 50 years. Once the boomers die off, israel would have to resort to some crazy shit to keep its power here (and we’re already seeing the beginnings of it with the unprovoked iran attacks). They’d have to manufacture a hundred more Epsteins lol.

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      2. Also, when I say zionists oppose nationalism in the west I didn’t mean just ADL (nice try tho). This is the default position of liberal zionists in the west.

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  4. In the Middle East only force works.

    ‘Pro-government forces’ were drawn away from Suwayda, so Syrian Druze community will live to see another day.

    Syrian president accuses Israel of fueling chaos after Sweida clashesAhmad al-Sharaa says Israel seeks to dismantle Syria, blames IDF strikes for inflaming crisis in Druze province; ceasefire reached as regime forces withdraw, handing local control to Druze leaders under international mediation

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    Addressing Syria’s Druze community directly, al-Sharaa said: “You are an inseparable part of our nation. Syria will never be a place for division or internal strife. Protecting your rights and freedoms is a top priority. We reject any effort to lure you into siding with foreign interests.”

    He acknowledged long-standing tribal and political tensions in the region but claimed the recent bloodshed was fueled by “lawless militias used to chaos and incitement” who refused dialogue and prioritized narrow interests. Still, he said, the state’s efforts to restore stability “succeeded despite Israeli interventions.”

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    The ceasefire, announced Wednesday afternoon by senior Druze cleric Sheikh Yusuf Jerboua, followed intense diplomatic pressure. It allows for full integration of Sweida into Syria’s new power structure while requiring al-Sharaa’s military units—many composed of former jihadist fighters integrated into state forces—to withdraw. Local Druze forces will now assume responsibility for security in the province.

    Pity nobody tried that ‘going to war’ approach with Putin the moment he invaded Donbas.

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    1. Yeah, they just let ‘settlers’ burn another Orthodox church in the West Bank. Whatever the Israeli government is, it’s no ally to the Orthodox church.

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      1. That is horrible!! I had no idea. What a tragedy.

        In what concerns Israel, I have a very specific question. When does the war stop? What is the final, clearly articulated and realistic goal after which there are nopre strikes on other countries?

        Take the Russian war in Ukraine. There’s a clear, realistic goal: Russian troops leave the territory of Ukraine. That’s it. That’s the goal. What Russians do after that, on their sovereign territory is none of anybody’s business. All they have to do to end the war today is go back home. That’s clear, that’s achievable.

        Does Israel have a goal like that? Something with real, measurable outcomes? Not vague feelings as in “until we feel safe.” But something specific. Because I’m not sure at this point what it is that those of us who support Israel are actually supporting.

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        1. I’d say Israel’s goals are more like Russia’s goals. We’re surrounded by enemies, so we’d better attack them before they attack us.

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