No, not all women are prostitutes. Become worthy of sex? Lady, are you mental? What if he loses his job, becomes sick, becomes disabled? You’ll drop him? In that case, it should go both ways. If you are pregnant, breastfeeding, unwell, have a bad hair day, he should feel free to sleep with other women?
What a pathetic, impoverished reality such people inhabit. She must have never felt any actual physical desire or loved anybody.
We’ve discussed this before, and I still think your argument is reasonable. But it rests on the huge assumption that people today are self-aware enough to know what they actually desire. I don’t think that holds in an Instagram-era culture where groupthink is powerful and constant comparison is unavoidable.
Even if, deep down, someone might be perfectly happy with a plainer-looking partner who has a decent but not spectacular job, it’s hard to escape the scrutiny of peers (and your own making!) and the internet. “Decent” isn’t instagrammable. “Skilled and successful” is. And this shows up in the data. Dating apps consistently find that a large majority of women pursue a very small fraction of men. And I agree, this is a pathetic, impoverished reality such people inhibit. But it is a reality, like it or not.
Example. I remember in the early 2000s there was this constant complaint from asian men that they were never really considered suitable romantic partners. Not masculine enough or whatever. Jackie Chan would maybe pair up with a white woman on screen, but no kissing. In 2025, women from all over the world are flocking to Korea to find their “Koreaboo.” What changed? Did the DNA of korean men change in the last 20 years? Nope. They stayed exactly the same. But now because of K-pop, Korea became cool. And people flock to “cool.” Is this organic desire or something manufactured?
Funny thing is, there’s been no such phenomenon for chinese men, even though they all look pretty much the same lol. Also, there has been no change in the proportion of men who are into asian women. If you are into asian women before, you still are. K-dramas really didn’t influence male sexuality.
Women, much more than men, can consciously mold their desire, and I suspect biology plays a role here. Men need to get hard in order to have sex whereas women can still engage in the act, even if the experience is unpleasant or desirable.
Also evolutionary reasons have something to do with it. Higher male status has long been a proxy for fitness and resource access. The problem here is that the social signals of success (cool!) in the modern era are more noise than signal, but still dominate modern mate selection, even when they may not line up with what would actually make someone happy long-term.
Evolutionary drives that once helped us survive have been hijacked by the modern environment. Just as our taste for sugar, salt, and fat made sense when they were scarce but now fuels diabetes and cancer, our instincts for mate “fitness” are being misled by modern social signals.
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The problem is, female sexuality develops much slower than the male. Women get themselves into these Inatagrammable marriages and then suddenly have their first orgasm at the age of 35 and go completely nuts. This is where the stories of “he’s a great man but I just need something more exciting” divorces come from. This is why a woman drops her kids and follows a lesbian girlfriend to some stupid protest.
The only way to avoid these “sudden” and “inexplicable” divorces that destroy families, hurt children and sap the wealth of the middle class is to talk about it. Young women talk about sex like they will be 22 and frigid as a doorknob forever.
We can bemoan the situation or do something about it. There is a clear sexual component to all these very overheated women at protests and in social media. I agree completely with your point that physiology allows women to invest their sexuality into financial well-being and social prestige. But there’s a huge price to pay for it and we are all paying.
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“What a pathetic, impoverished reality such people inhabit. She must have never felt any actual physical desire or loved anybody.”
That, and the idea of women suddenly “have their first orgasm at the age of 35”, shocks, actually horrifies me. And plus, despite a large number of us upvoted your discussion, so few added comments. What can I say, although the past is oft considered a different country, it must also have been peopled by a different population ;-D
While men and women are very different animals, I can personally assure you that at least some females were capable of orgasm, a few even multiple orgasm, in their teens and twenties even away back in the dark ages ;-D Sure, a lot of it probably did depend upon personal patience and trust, as much as knowledge. But some of it may have existed only because the sexes generally liked the other, and that has most certainly become much less common as the second-wave metastisized.
Hell, just think about it, in just a couple of generations, commercial television went from “Father knows best” to the “The Simpsons” — an ugly nasty choice solely driven by female purchase power. And to add obvious injury to insult, decades of the deliberate undermining of civil rights: preferential Set Asides, Quotas and Affirmative Action programs, finally leading to DEI, ultimately the complete total looting of the West.
Sorry for the jeremiad Kid, so I appended this ;-D
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I’ll put it differently: at around the age 35-40, women suddenly and unexpectedly get visited by the same kind of sexual state that men experience between 15-25. If people wondered what possessed Renee Good to make herself a nuisance in the street, there’s a very simple physical explanation.
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And I’m not saying all women. I’m saying women who invested their sexuality into convenient relationships.
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Actually, women do receive some testosterone, usually masked by female hormones until menopause. And that can increase somewhat sex drive for some women at that time. Are you suggesting that only the estrogenic hormones kept them from being bat shit crazy — or worse, that young men are bat shit crazy…okay, I am just giving you the gears ;-D
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This is mating fitness.
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down stream of sex work is work rhetoric, if sex work is work, all sex = work, and if it’s work, who’s paying me?
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Both are true.
Men should become ‘worthy’ of a long term relationship and exclusive sexual access to the woman in exchange for provision and protection. But once a woman choses that one man, the choice is done and she should live up to that part of the marriage vows too.
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