This has been happening since 2014, and the Obama, Trump and Biden administrations have gone to extraordinary lengths to silence the damage inflicted on US citizens who were simply doing their jobs.
What’s particularly curious here is that the three administrations were working in unison, betraying their citizens with zero qualms.
Remember: political partisanship is a mental defect.
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Wasn’t this an example of bipartisanship?
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It definitely is. But the resistance many people have to seeing that 3 administrations in a row did it is clear partisanship.
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Less than a week ago, the story was that the brains of victims of Havana Syndrome had been scanned, and there was no sign of damage. This was reported in a published scientific paper.
Today, dozens of outlets headlining a report that some GRU assassination cell is behind it all. (I am mystified that one of the contributors to this year-long investigation, alongside CBS, is a publication hosted *in the ru domain*, “The Insider”.)
I don’t know what the truth is, but clearly there are two sides fighting it out in the media, and the “Havana Syndrome realists” just had a big win.
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I’ve known about this for a decade. This is a very well-known phenomenon but the mass media only got to it now. Ten years it took them to start noticing.
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FWIW it’s been making the rounds in the freeper circles for years– my Dad’s sent me links about it several times.
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Exactly. I gave a talk about it 10 years ago, and repeated it several times since then. It’s an Obama administration scandal and one of the many things that were silenced to create the narrative that there were no scandals during Obama.
I never thought I would see the day when the Right would suddenly decide to deny Obama’s screwups.
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Obama literally sacrificed American citizens to his incredible hubris because he needed to pretend that his in-person visit could fix Cuba. Which is a Socialist dictatorship. And instead of talking about this and making sure this scandal is exposed, we are pretending that it never happened and Obama’s foreign policy was wildly successful. Honestly, how dumb is it?
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Is it any weirder than deciding that untested medical treatments should be released on the entire world… and then buying the propaganda about how great this was so thoroughly that *now lefties can’t admit that this was done on Trump’s watch, with his wholehearted endorsement*?
Like I was hopeful for a while there that we’d be able to admit what a screwup that was, by remembering that it started during a R admin. Nope. gawd they are welded onto that sense of righteousness. I think it’d break them to fit the actual timeline into their heads– groaning metal and catastrophic hull leaks and stuff. Trump did it. Biden continued it. It was a disaster. People died and are suffering from it. And you freaks pushed it (creeeeak, snap!).
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The MAGA cope narrative is that the vaccine that was invented during Trump was a good vaccine. Then, when he left office, it was substituted by a bad vaccine. And Trump still praises the vaccine because he doesn’t know it was swapped and still thinks the good vaccine is in place. This storyline makes Trump sound stupider than Kamala Harris because everybody who wanted to notice what kind of vaccine it has has had ample time to do so.
I’m looking forward to hearing how the Fauci that Trump didn’t fire was a good Fauci who was then swapped for his evil clone.
And if people think I’m inventing or exaggerating the cope narrative on the vaccines, folks, I only hope I were. This is a real thing, and it makes me want to tear my hair out in frustration.
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Oi.
The two cope narratives I’m seeing everywhere, that both drive me up the wall are:
I love how both of those scenarios follow the same logic: I did the right thing, so I cannot be harmed by this.
I just… that’s not how real life works. We are very frequently harmed by things we don’t know about, things we were wrong about, and crap other people did that we had no say in. It seems so unlikely that just being smart and making the right choice at the right juncture is a magic shield.
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I know everyone is tired of me saying it but this is the core of the neoliberal mentality which is that individuals determine everything in their lives by being effective managers of themselves and making all the right choices.
Yes, it’s important to be in charge of your life and make the right choices. But there are many things we can’t choose or make happen by force of our individual will and the assistance of the medical apparatus.
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I don’t blame them. It’s a lot easier mindset to live with than: the world is a big place, the stuff we don’t know about it outweighs the stuff we do know, and even the people who *think* they’re controlling it are just deluding themselves. They have really big wrecking balls, and can cause a lot of damage, but they control hardly any of it.
What you can control is you. Your behavior, your reactions, your emotions, and what you do with the vanishingly small things you control. And you can choose to not make the world a worse place for your presence in it. But that’s pretty much it. We don’t really get a say in the big things. Very often we don’t even get advance warning.
It’s like… my kids and I love watching the picturesque volcanic eruptions in Iceland the last few years. There’s tons of monitoring data available, you can track the earthquakes through a nice console, you can look at GPS data for the entire country, you can play when-will-it-erupt along with the pro geologists– fun for the whole family. There’s this wonderful illusion of knowing everything. Those are piddly little volcanos though. Hunga Tonga blew up not that long ago, with almost no warning, and nobody there to see it, out there in the Pacific. Blasted a huge ash/vapor cloud into the atmosphere, the effects of which we are still not clear on. Then you’ve got Nyiragongo– a large active volcano prone to sudden, fast-moving bursts of very liquid lava, right next to a dense city, with almost no seismic or other monitoring at all. Every time it erupts it’s a huge surprise. Why? Because whenever they install monitoring equipment it gets stolen and sold for scrap. Science just ignores it now. It went away because nobody could keep an eye on it.
Most things in the world are more like Nyiragongo and Hunga Tonga, than Reykjanes. We think we know a lot because we already have more data than we can make use of, but we have no idea how many, and how large, are the things we simply haven’t got the ability to know about.
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This creates an intolerable anxiety in many people. Especially if they aren’t religious or don’t have the inner resources to make peace with life’s essential unpredictability. It’s understandable but it’s hard to live with the constant terror that something will go kaboom at any given point. I get it but worshipping the gods of hubris isn’t the right response, either.
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Interesting… Meanwhile I thought this Havana thing was debunked, as some sort of US equivalent of “genetically modified mosquitos (or were these geese? pigeons?), created by the US in Ukrainian labs, and carrying diseases that hurt only the Russians”…
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Debunked by whom?
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And it’s absolutely not only Americans who were hurt by this. Nobody cares about the Cuban victims, as usual, but Canadian citizens suffered, too.
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Do not remember. I heard about both the Havana syndrome and about debunking it long time ago. Definitely much longer ago than last year. Thought it was a cold war legend, not even Obama-era legend… There were a lot of them. Another one was about KGB “programming” unsuspecting people to “wake up” upon receiving some specific signal, and to go do KGB’s bidding, against their will and outside of their awareness… Kill someone, or something…
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