The most brilliant thing I have read on abortion since Echidne’s “undead corpses”:
Obviously I think [Rick Perry] is horrible for wanting to outlaw abortions, but the rapeandincest “exception” has always been complete gibberish, allowing people who support something monstrous to be seen and to see themselves as somehow being less monstrous.
This is indisputable, people. The “rape and incest exception” is, indeed, supremely offensive. A woman needs to be raped by a relative to deserve a right to decide what happens inside her own body? WTF with that? Let’s not allow vile woman-haters to feel better about themselves through their insulting support of this insane exception.
I agree. Although the beliefs that life begins at conception and abortion is murder are, in my opinion, ridiculous and dangerous, if for whatever reason you actually DO hold these beliefs I can see no justification whatsoever for allowing ‘exceptions’. If you claim to believe these things but still allow an ‘exception’ in the case of rape or incest, it pretty much marks you out as a complete liar: the only conclusion is that you believe that abortion ISN’T murder, but that these nasty slutty women should be punished with pregnancy for daring to have sex. I wouldn’t like to give any anti-choicer the time of day, but if I was forced to I’d definitely prefer the first group. At least with them there’s the extreme outside chance that their convictions are driven by something other than an overwhelming hatred of women and a terror of female sexuality.
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choice starts when you get naked. When rape/incest occur, choice has been removed. Therefore the ‘exception’ rule is to restore some choice.
No women hating. No fear. Just responsibility for your actions.
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You do realize that your statement is completely ridiculous, right?
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// Just responsibility for your actions.//
If anybody needed 1 more proof that more “honest” position is about women hating too, here it is. Children as punishment, which “deserving” women get a benefit of escaping.
Anonymous, are you aware that most married people don’t get naked to make (1 more) child? Should married women refuse their husbands, if they aren’t ready to become pregnant again? And this danger is present since no method gives 100% protection. Many would turn to sterilization as a result.
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What’s more, the rape and incest provision is massively hypocritical; either a foetus is a person or it’s not. If it is a person (and abortion is therefore murder) then it shouldn’t matter whether it was the product of rape or incest or not; I mean, you don’t get away with murdering a “born” person if they happen to be the product of rape.
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AM called those people “Consistently misogynist” and described them well in the following post:
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/consistently_misogynist
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My point is that people who oppose the right to abortion are all stupid, vile, ridiculous, nasty jerks. Whether they believe in any exceptions is of no interest to me. They are all freaks.
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